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Kapnismologist

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PostSubject: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:55 am

GBD New Standard No. 133. Ebay find. Problems from day one. Not worth trying to save. Smoked it until the bitter end. A big bowl of G&H Brown Flake Unscented finally did it in. Stem is great. Should fit nicely in a cob.





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Jack Straw

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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:32 am

That'll buff out. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:51 am

Hardly noticeable, really.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:32 am

That makes me wince...

I've never had a pipe burn out and hope I never do. Any chance you took pics of the various stages?
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:23 am

A little bit of bondo and it'll be good as new.

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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:37 am

You can probably fix that with some spit and tobacco ash Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:25 am

Duct tape!!
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:33 am

You could pretend you don't know anything about pipes and sell it on EBay, list it as being in "very good condition, no bite marks, just one smallish hole on the side...". I've seen quite a few listing like that. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:03 pm

Wow, thats spectacular. Ive never seen a burnout like that before. Looks like it was a nice pipe at one point though. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:58 pm

Wrap your thumb around that part of the bowl, no one will notice. And when you want a strong "hit" of that Five Brothers/1792 mix, slide your thumb off and you've got a built in carburetor!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:16 pm

can someone explain to me how a burn out of that magnitude happens?
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Kapnismologist

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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:01 am

Natch wrote:
Wrap your thumb around that part of the bowl, no one will notice. And when you want a strong "hit" of that Five Brothers/1792 mix, slide your thumb off and you've got a built in carburetor!

Natch

Hmm, living on the dangerous side; I like it.


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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:06 am

ZeroContent wrote:
can someone explain to me how a burn out of that magnitude happens?

Easy. Take one over-reamed pipe with some major fissures on an already dangerously thin chamber wall. Say screw it, it is not worth trying to save. Smoke the hell out of it. Watch an orange ember magically appear on the outside of the bowl, keep a' puffin ... et voila, une pipe brl!
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:26 am

JB Weld will make it like new
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:48 am

Fascinating.

I'm curious, were the walls in the middle of the chamber reamed back more than the rim would lead us to believe, or were there chunks scraped out of it? Hard to tell from photos, but the walls don't look super thin jif judged by the rim.

Also curious as to how much effort it took to achieve burnout, i.e. do you think you could have achieved the same result with the same pipe by accident, with just normal smoking?
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:53 pm

Frost wrote:
Fascinating.

I'm curious, were the walls in the middle of the chamber reamed back more than the rim would lead us to believe, or were there chunks scraped out of it? Hard to tell from photos, but the walls don't look super thin jif judged by the rim.

Also curious as to how much effort it took to achieve burnout, i.e. do you think you could have achieved the same result with the same pipe by accident, with just normal smoking?

At the B&M I go to, the owner was a showing me boxes of the estate pipes that come in, some had massive burn outs like this. It seemed, they burned out in the side, leaving a divit, and the owner just really didnt care. Eventually it burns a small hole just to the other side. Aaaand pretty much once that hits it all goes into a big hole. Burnouts are usually from a flaw already inside the pipe. Like, a pit on the outside of a pipe is no problem. But move it over a millimeter or two, and you have a pipe ready for a burn out, if the pit is in a hotspot.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:46 pm

Frost wrote:
Fascinating.

I'm curious, were the walls in the middle of the chamber reamed back more than the rim would lead us to believe, or were there chunks scraped out of it? Hard to tell from photos, but the walls don't look super thin jif judged by the rim.

Also curious as to how much effort it took to achieve burnout, i.e. do you think you could have achieved the same result with the same pipe by accident, with just normal smoking?

Good questions.

On the first. The middle of the chamber toward the back was one big, wide divot with a good number of large fissures. The upper portion of the chamber, perhaps 1/4" formed a sort of 'lip.'

On the second, I actually smoked the pipe normally for some time and it would have gone eventually if that pace was kept up. It was just a matter of sooner rather than later in this case.

I really did not know what else to do with it. Since it was not a valuable pipe even in unsmoked condition, and since I could not in good conscience sell or trade it as it was, and since I have so many other pipes to smoke, it was really just a matter of putting it out of its misery.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:51 pm

Thanks for the explanation. Gotta say, that actually seems like it would be really fun in a perverse and destructive sort of way.

I for one appreciate the sacrifice. It was a good way to die.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:54 pm

Frost wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. Gotta say, that actually seems like it would be really fun in a perverse and destructive sort of way.

I for one appreciate the sacrifice. It was a good way to die.

Yeah, if someone made a pipe and said, "Hey, this will probably burn out" I'd smoke it, burn it out and then keep it to say, "I burned this out." Course it'd have to be a pipe I'd smoke to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:20 pm

Frost wrote:
...Gotta say, that actually seems like it would be really fun in a perverse and destructive sort of way...

Spot on. (although I hope not to find myself in the same situation again).
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:29 pm


[Suddenly, without warning, 3 1/2 years later]:

Say, I just discovered this thread. I have never had a burnout in my life, other than what you do with a car. Not even a corncob. I have had bowls so hot you couldn't hold them, but not like the first post. Spider webbing was the result, but it seemed to go away, or get buried under cake. Anyone else? Just curious.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:20 pm

Never had one. I have had new pipes that I think may have had soft spots in the bowl and would get hot as heck in a particular spot the first smoke or two. They broke in successfully, and I was just more paranoid about the bowl temp for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:19 pm

"Duc Tape"! Fixes EVERYTHING down here !! Twisted EvilTwisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:24 pm

Still can believe you smoked it that hot for that long.
Think I'd stay with cobs if I was that hard on briar.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnout   Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:00 pm

Cartaphilus wrote:
Still can believe you smoked it that hot for that long.
Think I'd stay with cobs if I was that hard on briar.

Yep, if you're referring to me above. Early in my career as a pipe-smoking reprobate. Don't know if "spider-webbing" is the right term. Looks like crocodile hide or something on the inside of the bowl. Charcoal crocodile hide, with segments and stuff. Those pipes are long gone, heaved into the trash, victims of a sudden rage at pipe smoking due to a sore tongue. I know better now. Wink

Gee whiz, I wonder if there was a connection?!
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