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Natch

Number of posts: 1749 Age: 61 Location: foothills of the Ozarks Tobacco: Most Lakeland Flakes, Va. and Va. blends. Registration date: 2007-12-21
 | Subject: Pellet gun advice? Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:14 am | |
| My old Sharadon pump-up seems to have bitten the dust. As the squirrels are running a muck (and destroying bird feeder after bird feeder) and Shadow the Wonder Pup misses wounded squirrels falling from the sky, I need to get another pellet gun.
I want something that can take a scope (I've got a nice old 4X that isn't being used) is powerful enough to take out squirrels at 50 yards or less, and doesn't cost too much. Also, I want something that can hold the pressure if left for a while. My old rifle was pretty good with 7 or more pumps, but if I left it for a few minutes, it leaked all the pressure. I never owned a CO2 type pellet gun, so I don't know if once the pressure canister is connected, if they leak out over time or not. Single shot is OK, as it's a sitting on the porch for two hours, waiting for one shot type gun, not taking it into the woods type.
Any suggestions or experiences?
Natch
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MisterE

Number of posts: 2672 Age: 44 Location: Mexico City Tobacco: Constantly searching... Pipe: A bunch.. Registration date: 2009-08-24
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:38 am | |
| I learned on an old Crossman Silver Streak (I think thatīs the name). Powerful gun. Probably dangerous in the hands of a bunch of 7 yearolds, jajaja. Wouldnīt want my son to do what we did....
A 4x scope is perfect- I had one of those on another Crossman and had a blast with it. It had a grooved bar on the top specifically for a scope, but a 4x is plenty. Rabbit, Quail, whatever.... |
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Williamson

Number of posts: 51 Location: South Carolina Tobacco: Peterson Old Dublin, Ashton Smooth Sailing, Presbyterian Mixture
Pipe: Peterson Irish Made Army, Savinelli Antique Shell, SMS Meerschaum Billiard Registration date: 2011-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:43 pm | |
| I would reccomend a Gamo shadow 1000. It is a spring powered gun that can achieve 1000 FPS with one cocking action. I regularly take out squirrels at 30-40 yards in one shot with mine |
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puros_bran Nightrider

Number of posts: 7480 Registration date: 2007-12-10
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:47 pm | |
| Well we don't use anything smaller than a 7mm Weatherby on the squirrel around these parts.. I screwed up and used a 30-30 on one, damn good thing I had the pistol in my belt and the knife in my boot otherwise I wouldn't be typing this.. That was a hell of a fight.. Lost two dogs, three finger, my right eye, and knocked down the neighbors barn.. But I came out on top.
For those whimpy Arkansas, Yourkansas, and Mykansas squirrel I hear you can't beat a Daisy Pellet gun from Wally Word.. Might have to take one or two back before you get one that shoots where you want it when you want it , but they are cheap and I've always had good luck with them when I've 'hand picked' one.. BUT.. Holding air is another thing altogether.. They've built air release valves or something into these newer ones to protect the children. I don't know how long they hold but I know its there..
Those CO2 cans will last longer than you'd think but it adds unneeded cost for what your wanting to do.. Before I went that route (and totally dependent upon your surroundings) I might go with a bolt 22 and 22shorts. A 'good' CO2 pellet gun will actually be just as,if not more, powerful ballistically. _________________ "Pacem en Puffing!"
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puros_bran Nightrider

Number of posts: 7480 Registration date: 2007-12-10
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:55 pm | |
| Case in point: The post above mine...
22short has an average muzzle velocity (at 10-12 ft) of 1000fps.. About 65-70lbs I'm to tired to try to do the math of .177 at 1000fps but it won't be much diff.
Another option might be the 22 BB or CB rounds.. Designed for indoor shooting.. Low noise, should still be enough power for what your doing.. I thing the 22BB is just bullet and primer.. _________________ "Pacem en Puffing!"
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MisterE

Number of posts: 2672 Age: 44 Location: Mexico City Tobacco: Constantly searching... Pipe: A bunch.. Registration date: 2009-08-24
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:01 pm | |
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mark

Number of posts: 3066 Registration date: 2008-07-02
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:39 pm | |
| Don't know your neighborhood restrictions as to noise or proximity but $150-$250 is the going rate for accurate state of art pellet rifles from Gamo, RWS or Ruger. (www.natchezss.com). An aquaintance has a Gamo and pops the little buggers at 50 yds with no problem.
I had a crossman co2 pellet but the co2 cost was more than the .22 with CB caps or subsonic rounds. I guess PBs squirrels must grow tusks and go 250 lbs to require a 7MM, but you can't shoot them in the "taint" and expect to get away with it,,,,, |
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pasq0321

Number of posts: 57 Age: 37 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Tobacco: So new, but so far A Shortcut to Mushrooms is pretty great. Pipe: A MM corn cob......looking for that perfect churchwarden........and now on the hunt for a Peterson Registration date: 2010-11-08
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:10 am | |
| Get another Sheridan. Thats a great pellet gun. |
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Ol'Dawg

Number of posts: 2032 Age: 66 Location: Northeast Georgia Registration date: 2008-01-03
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:32 am | |
| If you can find a BSA Magnum Super Sport, I can highly recommend them. It's a barrel cocking single shot and highly accurate with velocities of close to 1k/sec in .177 caliber. I'm not sure if they're imported now as I bought mine about 15 years ago and haven't seen them advertised lately.
Two of the main US air gun suppliers, Compasseco and Pyramyd Air have merged. The Pyarmyd Air site has the best info and reviews. The Gamo Big Cat 1200 (or Whisper if you're concerned about noise)and the Beeman RS2 or the Ruger Air Hawk look to be the best buys. For Christmas, a good friend of mine got the Beeman with two barrels, .177 and .22. I haven't talked with him lately to find out the accuracy but it looked like a well made gun when I saw it.
Here are a couple of links to get youy started-- Compasseco
Pyramyd Air
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hobie1dog

Number of posts: 1212 Age: 56 Location: Cornelius, NC Tobacco: Penzance,Daves Delight,Quiet Nights Pipe: Aaron Beck Freehand,Peterson XL23 Registration date: 2010-06-21
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:30 pm | |
| Gamo Hunter Extreme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugyO7dcF1n8 |
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*camoham

Number of posts: 139 Age: 40 Location: Indiana Tobacco: GLP- Quiet Nights, Mac Baren Mixture Flake, Peterson UF, CH, Captain Black, and a whole bunch of that altadis 1M that i keep getting for free (thats for sale btw) Pipe: Peterson 314 system standard, Peterson samhain 999, Dr. Grabows, and some no-names Registration date: 2010-07-24
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:29 pm | |
| if you want a pellet gun that will last a lifetime...........and fit the bill
might i suggest an RWS.
i believe used to be German made. my uncle had one and lent it to me when i was younger.
had a lot of power. no problems burying the pellet deep into wood. no fuzzy animals are safe around this one.
if you dont feel like spending a lot of money............then go with the crossman 760 pumpmaster. cheap plastic stock, but it'll get the job done too. youll have the option of bb's and pellets with that one.
so you have lifetime friend vs cheap possible lifetime friend.
camo |
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docwatson

Number of posts: 770 Age: 64 Location: Central Massachusetts and midcoast Maine Tobacco: Peretti's Burleys, Samuel Gawith Va.'s,Gawith & Hoggarth Va's., J.F. Germain Blends, MacBaren's Blends, so I'm a tobacco slut. Pipe: Browning Hi Power Registration date: 2008-03-21
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:33 pm | |
| Bought a Gamo Whisper when they first came on the market. Needed something QUIET!!!! Lol. Returned it because it made more noise than my 22's. So for quiet shots I now use sub sonic 22's. |
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Mr. Grimm
Number of posts: 5 Location: Central Ohio Tobacco: currently C.B. White Pipe: currently a grabow omega and a grabow viking. Both bent Registration date: 2011-02-01
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:57 pm | |
| I'm not sure what you're looking to spend but I us an airforce talon ss in .22 cal. It's pricey but VERY Accurate! And quiet enough to use in the back yard.
If you contact sherradan or check around some of the airgun forums you can probably get a new seal kit for that old blue streak for a small fee. Not assuming but have you tried oiling the old seals?
the new 1k spring rifles are ok but can sometimes be a challenge to shoot accuratly due to the reverse rrecoil and they aren't recommended to leave cocked for extended periods.
co2 is good in summer but cold weather takes it's toll on the number of shots.
good luck! |
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daveinlax

Number of posts: 137 Location: Wisconsin Registration date: 2007-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:04 am | |
| Try safflower in your feeders, after a day the squirrels will leave it alone. They hate the stuff! We've been using the hot pepper suet with pretty good anti squirrel results. |
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SPUD 15

Number of posts: 184 Age: 65 Location: Winter Springs Florida Tobacco: christmass cheer, scotch flake,quad va, mcb van flake,PS LTF, bullseye Pipe: old kriswills. astley, petersons, savinelli, wo larsen, Very old kaywoodies Registration date: 2011-09-07
 | Subject: Re: Pellet gun advice? Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:53 am | |
| | puros_bran wrote: | Case in point: The post above mine...
22short has an average muzzle velocity (at 10-12 ft) of 1000fps.. About 65-70lbs I'm to tired to try to do the math of .177 at 1000fps but it won't be much diff.
Another option might be the 22 BB or CB rounds.. Designed for indoor shooting.. Low noise, should still be enough power for what your doing.. I thing the 22BB is just bullet and primer.. |
I agree with Brandon the 22 cb has a muzzle velocity of about 850 fps. and sounds like a kernal of pop corn popping plenty of knockdown for a squirrel. I use them for Armadillos. The shell casing is the same size as a 22LR so you will not run into any difficulty wearing out the chamber with the shorter casings. MIKE |
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