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Harlock999
Number of posts: 3636
Location: Los Angeles
Tobacco:
Nightcap
Astleys No.99
London Mixture
Pipe:
Castello
Cavicchi
Il Ceppo
Registration date: 2010-10-22
| | Subject: The dark side of estate pipes... Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:23 pm | |
| I managed to not spend any money on ebay today, and relaxed while watching the bidders play the game. I thought it would be a good time to do some cleaning since I bought a bottle of Everclear yesterday, and started on a seriously dirty estate pipe. This was the third round of cleaning! I'm a little scared...  |
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MisterE
Number of posts: 2672
Age: 44
Location: Mexico City
Tobacco: Constantly searching...
Pipe: A bunch..
Registration date: 2009-08-24
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:37 pm | |
| Geez, that ain't that bad. I´ve had a couple that I´ve used half a pack of bristlys with alcohol and all are still coming out completely black....   |
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Harlock999
Number of posts: 3636
Location: Los Angeles
Tobacco:
Nightcap
Astleys No.99
London Mixture
Pipe:
Castello
Cavicchi
Il Ceppo
Registration date: 2010-10-22
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MisterE
Number of posts: 2672
Age: 44
Location: Mexico City
Tobacco: Constantly searching...
Pipe: A bunch..
Registration date: 2009-08-24
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:13 pm | |
| This was the culprit....  I just snapped this a few seconds ago. This photo doesn´t really do it justice but it was a meeeesss. Now it´s my favorite Vaper pipe!  |
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babysinister
Number of posts: 424
Registration date: 2009-05-09
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:50 am | |
| I had the same experience with a Royal Stuart canadian (old Sasieni seconds line). A ton of pipecleaners dipped in cleaning liquid kept coming out bleck from inside the shank. Even the stem was a problem. The liquid finally managed to soften the crud inside the stem (yes - the stem!) for tobacco flakes to finally be dislodged! They looked like seaweed. Seaweed Jeffrey?? Yes, seaweed. I just sent my other estate pipes to Walker Briars for regular cleaning and polishing. I don't want to work that hard again. Life is too short. [img]  [/img] |
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SPUD 15
Number of posts: 184
Age: 65
Location: Winter Springs Florida
Tobacco: christmass cheer, scotch flake,quad va, mcb van flake,PS LTF, bullseye
Pipe: old kriswills. astley, petersons, savinelli, wo larsen, Very old kaywoodies
Registration date: 2011-09-07
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:13 am | |
| [quote="Harlock999"]I managed to not spend any money on ebay today, and relaxed while watching the bidders play the game. I thought it would be a good time to do some cleaning since I bought a bottle of Everclear yesterday, and started on a seriously dirty estate pipe. This was the third round of cleaning! I'm a little scared...
Where do you get everclear, I live in Florida and I think it's outlawed here. I have always used Jameson, what I dont use I drink. MIKE
SLOW THINKERS MAKE JUMP THROUGH THE ASS PROJECTS |
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Boulder
Number of posts: 841
Age: 55
Location: North New Jersey
Tobacco: On a quest to try them all.
FVF, LNF, SL, 2035, BS, CH.
Pipe: Meerschaum, Briar,
Olive, Cob.
Registration date: 2011-08-29
| | Subject: The dark side of estate pipes... Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:15 am | |
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As I'm new to pipes, my question to all is it worth it?
What is considered a good percentage of savings over new? (50-60-70%)
And what is considered a good percentage for reconditioned estate? (????)
As I don't collect Antiques, I do understand value and luv looking at pre-owned and estate prospects in good condition at substantial savings.
Thanks, John.
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Zeno Marx
Number of posts: 545
Registration date: 2010-06-26
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:08 pm | |
| | Boulder wrote: | [b]
As I'm new to pipes, my question to all is it worth it? |
Yes. It isn't just a monetary savings. A lot of that old briar is unbeatable and does not exist anymore. Craftsmanship of another time. |
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Boulder
Number of posts: 841
Age: 55
Location: North New Jersey
Tobacco: On a quest to try them all.
FVF, LNF, SL, 2035, BS, CH.
Pipe: Meerschaum, Briar,
Olive, Cob.
Registration date: 2011-08-29
| | Subject: The dark side of estate pipes... Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:11 pm | |
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I was wondering about easy cleaning of estate pipes and found this link and others on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnXaJw5uf2w&feature=related
Hope the info is a help to others, John.
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Boulder
Number of posts: 841
Age: 55
Location: North New Jersey
Tobacco: On a quest to try them all.
FVF, LNF, SL, 2035, BS, CH.
Pipe: Meerschaum, Briar,
Olive, Cob.
Registration date: 2011-08-29
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:32 pm | |
| | Zeno Marx wrote: | | Yes. It isn't just a monetary savings. A lot of that old briar is unbeatable and does not exist anymore. Craftsmanship of another time. |
Got ya (Vintage Pipes), good point, but is there a rule of thumb for the rest of this? |
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Harlock999
Number of posts: 3636
Location: Los Angeles
Tobacco:
Nightcap
Astleys No.99
London Mixture
Pipe:
Castello
Cavicchi
Il Ceppo
Registration date: 2010-10-22
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:56 pm | |
| | SPUD 15 wrote: |
Where do you get everclear, I live in Florida and I think it's outlawed here. |
I didn't think everclear was available in California either. I went to a local liquor store to buy a small bottle of Bacardi 151, which I thought would work better cleaning this pipe. When I told the salesman what I needed it for, he said "why don't you try everclear?". To which I replied "you sell everclear?" Sure enough, they did. |
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alfredo_buscatti
Number of posts: 1239
Age: 57
Location: Piedmont, North Carolina
Tobacco: quit
Registration date: 2007-12-16
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:01 am | |
| What is considered a good percentage of savings over new? (50-60-70%)
And what is considered a good percentage for reconditioned estate? (????)
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You'll pay 50-70% of the value of the pipe when new when you buy estate, but it depends on the marketability of the maker, especially that of the Danes, and super stars like Former or S. Bang, with good to excellent straight grain, are that much more.
But you'll only recoup ~40% of the amount for which the dealer expects to sell the pipe. |
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SPUD 15
Number of posts: 184
Age: 65
Location: Winter Springs Florida
Tobacco: christmass cheer, scotch flake,quad va, mcb van flake,PS LTF, bullseye
Pipe: old kriswills. astley, petersons, savinelli, wo larsen, Very old kaywoodies
Registration date: 2011-09-07
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:33 pm | |
| | Harlock999 wrote: | | SPUD 15 wrote: |
Where do you get everclear, I live in Florida and I think it's outlawed here. |
I didn't think everclear was available in California either. I went to a local liquor store to buy a small bottle of Bacardi 151, which I thought would work better cleaning this pipe. When I told the salesman what I needed it for, he said "why don't you try everclear?". To which I replied "you sell everclear?" Sure enough, they did. |
Thanks I'll have to try another liquor store. I spent a little time in Upper Sussex at hr Martin Baker Factory in "73" . MIKE |
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PipeLeisure
Number of posts: 1018
Age: 34
Location: Dartmouth Massachusetts
Tobacco: Boswells Northwoods, Cherry Smash, Berry Cobbler, Christmas Cookie, Pom Holiday, Chocolate Cream. Peterson blends, dunhill, McCrainies "Murdocks Pipe", Christmas Cheer.
Pipe: Boswell, Ardor, Ser Jacopo, Caminetto, Stanwell, Peterson, Eric Nording, Poul Winslow, Søren. Lover of Freehands.
Registration date: 2011-08-28
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:18 pm | |
| WOW if those pipe cleaners are from the third round I could only imagine what the first round looked like. Just look at it like this....what else would you be doing if you didnt have a pipe to clean.  |
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Lesath
Number of posts: 339
Location: The Ozarks
Tobacco: Lat blends, Vapers, Va, most anything, up to and including ham, beef, and poultry.
Pipe: Armellini, Big Green Egg, Lepeltier, MM, Pete, Stanwell, Self made, et al.
Registration date: 2011-07-22
| | Subject: Re: The dark side of estate pipes... Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:43 pm | |
| I count my blessings that there is an ozone generator in the family. You still have to put the effort into cleaning the pipe, but it sure helps to neutralize some of those estates that continue to stink after you give it your best try. |
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