nooooo!!!!!

Number of posts: 139 Registration date: 2012-01-20

i'm so angry Sad

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:51 pm

What make was the pipe? If it's a keeper, I'd send it to Walkers Briars : http://www.walkerbriarworks.com/ and see what they can do. Looks like there is enough of the stummel left to refit the stem to. It looks saveable Very Happy

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:51 pm

I feel your pain. It's happened to me too. If you're especially fond of that one it can be fixed.

Number of posts: 139 Registration date: 2012-01-20

it's a ben wade from back when ben wade made 'em... i'll get it fixed for sure. but for now... i steam Mad

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:16 pm

sam a wrote:

it's a ben wade from back when ben wade made 'em... i'll get it fixed for sure. but for now... i steam Mad

what happened? Drop it or pulled oput the stem hot or what? Thats a real bummer man.

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:33 pm

OUCH!

I'm sorry, man.... I wouldn't even wish that on my worst enemies.

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:04 pm

Your new avatar:

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:40 am

Yikes !

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:53 am

I'm sure you have the sympathy of everyone in the forums on this one! Best of luck with the repair

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:54 am

Precision Pipe Repair & Restoration.

What a Face

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:43 am

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:54 am

That stinks. Keep us posted. I dropped one of my Upshalls at the polishing wheel, but did a "kick save" with my foot..........whew, no damage. Careful Jones, careful...

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:37 am

There is a good lesson here. Sam, not saying you did this, but it sure looks like the kind of damage from a history of improper stem removal at some point in this poor pipe's past. Talking with a few gents who have done some repairs, it suggests that if the stem is removed when hot and/or moist, especially right after smoking, small fissures and cracks can form toward the end of the shank--especially if the motion to do it was repeated day after day, smoke after smoke... suddenly, a day comes, could even be years down the road, when suddenly...

...yeah. Let pipes cool, let 'em dry, twist stems evenly, pull gently.

I usually let my pipes sit for a few days before I take them apart and clean them. I really like cleanliness in all things. It does make me wonder, since some brothers don't even take pipes apart (or all that often) in their routines if I might adopt a similar notion. Certain pipes of mine collect moisture, however, and get a little funky. *shrug*

It's a disturbing sight I hope I don't have to see in person. I'm sorry this happened, Sam, I hope it can be fixed. Sad

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:02 am

Kyle Weiss wrote:

I usually let my pipes sit for a few days before I take them apart and clean them.

Really, Kyle, a few days?I normally wait a couple hours and that's it. A few days seems a little extreme but then again I my be creating fissures as we speak so now you've made me just paranoid enough to wait a day or two haha

Subject: Re: nooooo!!!!! Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:16 am

Hater wrote:

Kyle Weiss wrote:

I usually let my pipes sit for a few days before I take them apart and clean them.

Really, Kyle, a few days?I normally wait a couple hours and that's it. A few days seems a little extreme but then again I my be creating fissures as we speak so now you've made me just paranoid enough to wait a day or two haha

There's a reason for this, at least for my pipes, and it's because of moisture. I smoke a bit wetter than most. The ashen gray that coats the bowls post-smoke often gets black with moisture that naturally comes down through an upturned stem. That takes a good 24 hours (if not more) to evaporate, even in Nevada humidity (which is low, in case you were wondering) and turn from black to gray again in the bowl. I assume that the air circulation is likely less inside the stem, and probably less still in places where there's just enough gap to allow moisture to collect. With that in mind, moisture (or lack thereof) will contract and expand natural fibers (like briar). The stems will "reset" their position in the shank, and theoretically, dry out back to their original position. I'd prove this theory by neurotically taking apart the pipe and discover at what point the moisture truly has dried, but that would be only by eyeballing it, and I'd also be taking apart the pipe when I probably shouldn't. Laughing

So, I rotate them out, get about four or five sitting "dirty," then when the last pipe has had about 48 hours of dry time, I break 'em all down and clean 'em. I use a cob for the last day of sitting, because those I'm not as concerned about a wet shank, so they all truly get a good "sit" before they get the (roughly weekly) duty.

This is just an amalgamation of thought, logic, talk with other pipesters and excerpts from books (Ehwa/Hacker). There's a bit of assumption and faith that this method might actually preserve my pipe. Will it? I don't know. It's just my theory and understanding of things, you can do what you wish with your pipes. No paranoia necessary.

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