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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Thu May 31, 2012 9:14 pm

Sad to hear this Rob. Unemployment sucks, including and especially if it was unwarranted.

Hang in there bro. Your next gig will be better.


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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:37 am

Brewdude wrote:
Unemployment sucks, including and especially if it was unwarranted.

Yup - definitely unwarranted.

Anyway, thanks again Brothers. Your support means more than you realize.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:13 am

Late to the party, as usual...sorry to here the news, man. My wife went through a lay off recently, so I feel ya. Like you said, it's the hassle of the damn things that's as bad as the rest. I'm sure you'll be back to work soon enough - good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:31 am

Been watching this, not really knowing how to respond as the same thing happened to me...twice. Both times completely expected due to a shift in the President's position and in my field that always mean that one department would be scoured and then rebuilt...being 'the design' of how things were done. But that didn't mean that it didn't hurt. I know we're men...hunters...hunt big meat then kill and all. It's still in our genes. It's where was came from and it's what we are. And we're not supposed to be all soft, needing Kleenex and bandaids and the like. If we get stomped by the mammoth, which is part of what we all understand can happen while hunting...then we take it and smile...if we still have teeth. But...while we are still tough hunters that don't 'feel' we have also evolved. And we need support. Me? I had night visions and day dreams of the feeling of my tires going over 'them' (thump..thumpthump...crunch!) for several years, and while entertaining it brought little relief. And while there is still one woman I would gladly put a spear in..not wanting her to pass too quickly, so I could enjoy both her pain and have others watch me dance around her writhing, twisted...well, you get the idea. Remember that the desire for revenge is normal, don't be alarmed by visions of fairly graphic violence...they will pass.

Good things: You didn't leave and kiddie porn on your work computer (I hope). You have family that loves you (I hope...as they are always your greatest asset, cause when you get right down to it...no one else gives a shit). My biggest concern on your behalf is that you continue some kind of medical insurance...and of course, always use sunscreen! You'll get no advice from me re job search cause I'm lousy at it. If you're old enough and have been carefull enough and have a spouse that gets 6 figures and full family benefits, consider retirement and the rediscovery of that thing that you always wanted to do when you were 20 but got diverted by life and having to make a living. That's what I did. Lord...I'm happy now for the first time in 15 years. Love getting up every single day and look forward to what I'm going to do tomorrow as I go to bed every night. It wasn't easy, but I made it.

So (and here I get pithy) hang in there, enjoy the visions of revenge, continue the insurance, figure out what you REALLY should have been doing to make you whole and happy...and do it! You won't find a better bunch of cheerleaders than all of us to cheer you on! Cause, you know, that's what we do. We're brothers.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:43 am

Well BH - retirement is not an option at this time, as my wife doesn't earn a 6-figure income. Oh well, can't win 'em all. However the Insurance is not a problem, since it was cheaper for her to get Family coverage than it was for me.

No spears would be used in revenge, but a taser or even a stun gun would be a blast. Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:09 pm

You could abduct them and make them listen to Britney Spears while tasing them. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:12 pm

Kyle Weiss wrote:
You could abduct them and make them listen to Britney Spears while tasing them. Very Happy

But that'd be redundant.

You can only die once.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:25 pm

MisterE wrote:
Kyle Weiss wrote:
You could abduct them and make them listen to Britney Spears while tasing them. Very Happy

But that'd be redundant.

You can only die once.

lol! cheers

I for one am not worried about Rob at all. He will be fine. Remember how quickly he began construction on the 2nd Death Star after the first was blown to bits by Rebel scum??? He's a master of bouncing back! Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:36 pm

Onward & upward !

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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:41 pm

Ewoks are based off of Jamacians.

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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:42 pm

Good one, Shane. Darn Rebels.... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:57 pm

Sorry to hear that Rob. You will bounce back and likely for the better!

Been in that same situation 2x in the past 10 years. Each time I was able to improve things the next time around. I know you will do the same.

If you need anything just holler, us Show Me's stick together.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:03 am

Thank You Hunter.



s.ireland wrote:
Remember how quickly he began construction on the 2nd Death Star after the first was blown to bits by Rebel scum??? He's a master of bouncing back! Twisted Evil

Yes - and I did survive the fall and escaped the 2nd Death Star. Twisted Evil


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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:20 am

Rob, by any chance is your Inbox full? I sent you a PM yesterday and it's still sitting in my Outbox. I'm not sure how the system works, but "poorly" is one word that comes to mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:11 am

Sorry to hear this, Rob -- but it does happen to most of us (twice for me), but hopefully you'll find something soon!
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:25 am

Guys...all of us are or were in this all together at one time or another. I just read Blackhorse's post from yesterday morning and it brings back painful memories. I worked hard at school to get my degrees and I worked hard to become skilled at my profession. I worked multiple jobs and always gave my best shot to every employer; yet still, I got pink slipped several times. Once I ran a doctors office for three men, two of whom were brothers and who were fighting with each other constantly. One brother accused me of siding with the other and accused me of stealing a computer disc from the office that I was asked to take home each evening for more than a year to safeguard patient accounts in case of a computer meltdown. The night I was terminated I was physically blocked from leaving the office until he inspected my briefcase which I refused to allow. (I did not take the disc that night). I had to call the police who of course arrived to shove the doctor away from my office door and escort me out to my car. The officer arrived, came into my office, and after a WTF conversation told the doctor to be glad he was not dragged out cuffed for his unlawful behavior. Needless to say two days later I was served with a subpoena by that idiot and of course the case never went to a court.

I could go on and on. Blackhorse and I are peers. We both encountered life as it really is. The difference in our work years was that there were no computers and no internet. Job searches were typewritten letters and want ads in the newspaper. The search was more time consuming and more tedious, but the stress at home was always there. My wife went back to work early in our marriage and I was home with a two year old until I relocated. Two more boys came into our lives and jobs began and jobs ended. In another practice three other docs disagreed and I was fired. An office colleague called my home before I even arrived and the news was already blown to my wife the evening before we were to fly to California from NY for a family wedding. On my first job, after 10 years as Senior Assistant Administrator at the Catholic Medical Center of New York the Director of Nursing who was a Dominican nun called my home and also spoke to my wife horrified by what had happened to me. Needless to say that entire 1000 bed hospital system was corrupt and folded. Throughout my professional work years I had self incorporated and did freelance practice management. Because I "had a business" I was ineligible for unemployment insurance. Thankfully I had a part-time evening job teaching so I had health insurance from the New School University.

The work-a-day shit only ends when we reach our 60's and then we can retire and tell all employers to go and fnck themselves. Until then we have to take the lumps, know we are not at fault, and move on the the next opportunity. The economy now is bad and there are no good jobs. Romney and Bain Capital are poster boy and classic example of what is bound to happen on any day to any working man; blue collar or professional. When it happens, family and friends need to stick by and give support, encouragement, and also afford privacy. Wives need to understand also and there needs to be a family plan. Savings need to be amassed, retirement plans should not be touched and both husband and wife need to develop careers, have equal responsibility as partners to work inside and outside of the home so that when one spouse stumbles the other one is there to hold up the family. Health insurance also must be maintained.

My wife and I never allowed ourselves expensive vacations, expensive clothes, expensive cars, or expensive home furnishings. We never lost sight of what's important. What's important is your marriage, your family, and your security. Hang tough, and your next job will come along. Understand and accept the fact that it gets you from point A to point B and it too will end. When you get to your golden years you retire to your porch, smoke your pipe, relax, and worry for your children. You hope their opportunities are better for them than your's were for you and you are grateful that you don't have to go out to look for another job.

Sorry for this rant but I needed to write it. Rob and others....I feel your pain and I am sorry that you too are reliving my life experiences.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:37 am

Marty, it's weird...it's almost as if you said to move on to the next opportunity, but then there are no jobs and apparently no hope, but to go look for a job and live within means.

I'm certainly confused. Then again, I'm in the mining industry. The sad truth out there is there's always opportunity when there's a downturn in economies, world or local. Economics isn't an all-or-nothing thing-- just the mining industry is. Laughing People just gotta get creative where they look for these opportunities, and sadly, most people have been put on set of rails and told not to deviate from them, and have been... *ahem*... trained a certain way, taught a certain way to think about problem solving.

So, eventually things will improve. Some say this is already happening. Good economies are bad for commodities, and I'll be looking for other work one day, too--cycle of my life. Joblessness is the mother of all self-reinvention.

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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:42 am

Kyle: Read carefully....I said no GOOD JOBS. There are jobs but they probably will not last. That is a given and must be accepted. Unemployment is a fact of life that must be accepted and worked around now more than before. The days of working on the same job for multiple years for many is as old as your grandfather's Studebaker.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:49 am

LIPIPE wrote:
Kyle: Read carefully....I said no GOOD JOBS. There are jobs but they probably will not last. That is a given and must be accepted. Unemployment is a fact of life that must be accepted and worked around now more than before. The days of working on the same job for multiple years for many is as old as your grandfather's Studebaker.

I read it again, it still seems doom-like. I don't think that's a given and I don't accept it, nor the notion nothing will last work-wise. Nope, it isn't the same as it used to be. Saying unemployment is a fact of life is damn negative and a crap attitude--which is more a fact of life than unemployment will be. JMHO.

Another HO: Want a job that might give you multiple years of employment? It's called self-employment. *raises hand* I can vouch.

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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:51 am

George Kaplan wrote:
Rob, by any chance is your Inbox full? I sent you a PM yesterday and it's still sitting in my Outbox. I'm not sure how the system works, but "poorly" is one word that comes to mind.

Sorry George, that does happen from time to time. Inbox is only 25% full now and I sent you a reply. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:05 am

Thanks Doc. It'll work out for the best, i'm sure!

Marty and Kyle - you both bring up good points.

Marty - I didn't take your rant as a doom & gloom post. I completely understand what you were saying, and living within our means is something my wife and I have always practiced (well, me more than her ). We've all been shafted by employers in the past, and i'm no different than anyone else in that matter. Savings we have, but not enough of. Very Happy

Kyle - economies bounce both ways. When areas are up, others are down. Self-Employment is also another viable option, and this time of year the Lawn Service industry is doing pretty well. I've done this for extra income in the past, and am thinking seriously about picking that back up - at least for the time being.

Next week I'll get serious about doing this (or something), right now i'm taking the weekend off and spending it with my family. You understand, I hope.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:11 am

Enjoying time off with your family? Auch nein! Härter arbeiten! Laughing

Take time to figure things out and gain your bearings. You'll figure it out.

Marty is quite right about living within means, but my problem is with not spurring the dream. Giving up and saying unemployment is just a fact of life and there's no such thing as years of work just isn't dreaming, it's morally-implied pauperism by those who think somehow a cultural uprising is going to trump the motivation of a better life. I'm a grand master of living well within my means--and that isn't a contradiction in terms. I still eat, have luxuries like musical instruments and pipes and pay the rent--every cent counts. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:59 pm

Sorry to hear that, Rob. Hope you find a jib you like soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:44 am

Sorry about your job loss. It sucks. I remember going through it about 14 years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got fired. No PAD or TAD for a while...   Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:13 am

Hang in there Rob, my company was sold and scrapped (after working there 30 years) and I came out ahead with a better job, but it took a whole year and some retraining. It's easy to say "keep a positive attitude" but that's what it takes. You're no dummy and we're all pulling for you. Something will turn up. My thoughts are with you and your family.
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