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PostSubject: Indian Motorcycles   Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:16 pm

This has been in the works for quite a while with rumors running rampant, but Polaris has put the wheels in motion. 105 cubic inches with a 6 speed, belt drive.



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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:59 pm

ooohhhhhhhh....Mama likes. If I ever get another bike this is the one I want.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:58 am

Kinda liking the Darkhorse myself......... king
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:14 am

Last time I looked at Indian pricing...it was painful...very painful. Doesn't matter what they do to it...jet engine...500 horsepower...Price will kill them in the market.
Yep, just went back and looked. That dark horse is $28.000. That's a ton for a fairly basic bike.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:38 pm

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Kinda liking the Darkhorse myself......... king

Maybe we can get a deal on a pair,,, cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:07 pm

It is a tough economy to see a premium priced boutique bike. I guess if anyone can make it work it would be Polaris. I found it interesting that they worked so hard on engine sound. I've ridden a few Victorys, which are excellent motorcycles but never quite sounded right to my ears. I hope they can make it work it is a shame to have this American icon getting so beat up in the past 15 years.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:17 pm

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DoverPipes wrote:
Kinda liking the Darkhorse myself......... king

Maybe we can get a deal on a pair,,, cheers

I don't think we can ride Upstate yet...... santa
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:42 pm

For TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS I got this:



Superior engineering, rugged reliability, 90 year heritage, unmatched long haul comfort, go anywhere-do anything capability, ABS, electronic suspension adjustment, low maintenence shaft drive, tubeless tires on spoked rims, trip computer, 8.7 gal. fuel tank (400+ mile range), heated grips, hand guards, aux. running lights, waterproof hard bags, virtually unlimited after-market accessories and a large, worldwide dealer network. What's not to love. The styling, perhaps? Not for everybody, I admit. But I'm a function over form guy. No more chrome bling for me. Had my fill of that a long time ago. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:36 am

Yup, BMWs are top shelf in their class. I do think Polaris/Indian is targeting a different segment of the population though.

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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:05 pm

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Yup, BMWs are top shelf in their class. I do think Polaris/Indian is targeting a different segment of the population though.

Perhaps.......<g>


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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:16 pm

CACooper wrote:
For TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS I got this:

I owned a R100 GSPD for 8 years and had a blast doing the AdvRider thing on jeep roads in the Western states. One thing I could not do on it, though, is putt along at 55 mph on a paved road and be content - it just made me impatient and fidgety on that bike. My Victory V92C cured that and it became my favorite ride. I sold the GS and replaced it with a dual-sported XR 650R to scratch the off-road itch.

If I ever drop the kind of dough on a motorcycle that Polaris wants for an Indian, it would be a sign that I'd lost my marbles and should be checked into the loony bin.

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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:30 am

The new Indian is definitely being targeted at the high income crowd. Polaris is keeping the Victory positioned for the higher volume, mid-pricing segment. I almost considered a Victory when they put out the "bargain" priced Judge (horribly uncomfortable passenger seat, if my wife ain't happy I ain't happy). I really liked the looks of that bike for the price.

I have very much enjoyed the new Indian marketing campaign aimed straight at Harley's head. I am not sure how successful it will be, but the advertisements have been fun to read.

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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:35 am

Now there's a motorcycle!
I don't know if these are built like they use to be but, I'm just a sucker for a pretty face.

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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:58 am

Just another brand name purchased by overseas companies to be exploited.

It ain't an Indian. It is a retro Polaris. Face it.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:08 am

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 It is a retro Polaris.  Face  it.
If you have ever ridden a Polaris built bike (Victory), that is a good thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:18 am

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Just another brand name purchased by overseas companies to be exploited.  

It ain't an Indian.  It is a retro Polaris.  Face  it.
I don't agree. Most motorcycle and many automotive companies have changed ownership over the years, as well as many corporations. It doesn't always change the product itself. I am not ready to sign off Indian yet.

What I don't like about the new Indian is the price point and the lack of smaller, more agile options. A mid sized remake of the Scout would be nice to see. I don't like the new Indians for the same reason I don't like the Harley baggers; too big and clumsy on the road. I like getting spirited in the corners.

So, while the new Indian is not for me I do wish the venture well. Some folks will be very happy with the big, nostalgic, tassled machine. Good for them.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:42 am

Not having been around scooters in a long time I don't know who Polaris is, only the Indian name. But, if it's a Japanese knock off that's sad. But, I gotta say (whether I like to or not) they caught the look.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:45 am

JKenP wrote:
Just another brand name purchased by overseas companies to be exploited.  

You may not be aware that Polaris is located in that third-world country of ....Minnesota. They do talk funny there....<g>
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:48 am

riff raff wrote:
JKenP wrote:
Just another brand name purchased by overseas companies to be exploited.  

You may not be aware that Polaris is located in that third-world country of ....Minnesota.  They do talk funny there....<g>
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:08 am

JKenP wrote:
riff raff wrote:
JKenP wrote:
Just another brand name purchased by overseas companies to be exploited.  

You may not be aware that Polaris is located in that third-world country of ....Minnesota.  They do talk funny there....<g>
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It gets worse...the motors are built in Osceola, Wisconsin. Wisconsin!???
Just having some fun at your expense Ken, because I know you have some thick skin! I actually thought they were built in Canada, so I learned something.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:57 am

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the motors are built in Osceola, Wisconsin. Wisconsin!???
Well, I'll always remain a cycling neophyte, but I do recall there is a motorcycle engine manufacturer of some note that is in Milwaukee. Something about flat heads and such.  I guess you can also throw in Cheese Heads.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:06 am

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Not having been around scooters in a long time I don't know who Polaris is, only the Indian name. But, if it's a Japanese knock off that's sad. But, I gotta say (whether I like to or not) they caught the look.
As riff raff duly notes, Polaris is a full blooded American company. They have been manufacturing water sport and off-road vehicles for years. They broke into the motorcycles market in the last decade with it's first motorcycle brand Victory. Victory was the first real American option to Harley's. Now they are reviving the Indian brand. The Indian name has been bought several times in the last few decades, but Polaris has the capital and manufacturing experience to pull this off. Since they own both brands, I will expect Indian to remain a high end motorcycle while Victory targets the rest of the market.

Too bad, I really want to see a mid-sized Indian Scout!
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:49 am

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Cartaphilus wrote:
Not having been around scooters in a long time I don't know who Polaris is, only the Indian name. But, if it's a Japanese knock off that's sad. But, I gotta say (whether I like to or not) they caught the look.
As riff raff duly notes, Polaris is a full blooded American company. They have been manufacturing water sport and off-road vehicles for years. They broke into the motorcycles market in the last decade with it's first motorcycle brand Victory. Victory was the first real American option to Harley's. Now they are reviving the Indian brand. The Indian name has been bought several times in the last few decades, but Polaris has the capital and manufacturing experience to pull this off. Since they own both brands, I will expect Indian to remain a high end motorcycle while Victory targets the rest of the market.

Too bad, I really want to see a mid-sized Indian Scout!
Lets hope it stay's American in America.
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:07 pm

I don't think the parts are even close to 100% USA sourced. Shocked 
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PostSubject: Re: Indian Motorcycles   Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:27 pm

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I don't think the parts are even close to 100% USA sourced. Shocked 
I don't think the parts for anything are 100% U.S. sourced anymore. Detroit only assembles cars and trucks now. I think the motorcycle manufacturers do a better job of keeping work here at home than most other industries. I watched as the printer/copier company Lexmark slowly moved all of their manufacturing out of Lexington, Kentucky to foreign facilities. Only an office building left now.
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