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PostSubject: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:34 am

Who loves them who hates them and why?
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:13 am

I dislike them because I don't get the benefit stated (smoke goes to roof of mouth instead of tongue, eliminating tongue irritation) and I find the airway in the stem quite restricted (the airway actually diminishes from tenon to button with a very small hole at the P lip button). They aren't horrible or anything and lots of guys like em, but I greatly prefer a fishtail. Also, the P lip button is rather fat and not conducive to comfortable clenching. Again, others will disagree. It's personal preerence.

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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:47 am

The only thing I'd add about PD's rap would be that, if you're clenching one, using tooth pressure, then yes, it is awkward & tiring. But on the prototypical bent system pipe there's a wide lower ridge that's well-suited to hooking over whichever tooth you prefer & letting it dangle comfortably -- no biting involved.

The restriction in the airway can (not necessarily does) cut both ways. I broke the tenon of a 150 stem (straight bulldog) & had it replaced with a fishtail. Now I wish I'd gotten a replacement P-lip for it. Reason being that with the smoke stream more dispersed now, it doesn't have the flavor concentration the old one did. The fishtail replacement took it from Fantastic down to Good.

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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:46 pm

I don't love 'em or hate 'em. They're just different. (I seem to be concluding that about a lot of things, lately...)

For me, there's no monumental tongue-saving quality with the draft hole pointed to the roof of the mouth. Nor does it prevent smoke from getting to the tongue. It clenches, for me, like any other pipe, and in some instances, is more comfortable with my tongue in a natural position. Perhaps it's my overbite, or the fact I "side-clench" (pipe bit is on the inside top and bottom of my molars, pipe obliqued to the right or left corner of my mouth) rather than a "front clench" (where I notice guys run the pipe stem/bit in-line with their bottom and top molars, and the pipe faces more forward with their gaze).

I dunno. Comfort issues, I seem to notice, are the biggest complaint with P-lips, so if you have a clench or way of smoking that accommodates those kinds of Petes favorably, you're lucky to have more selections available to you.

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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:26 pm

Out of the 8 pete's I have, only 3 have P-lips left on 'em. Thin wide fishtail's work better with my dentures so I have replaced the P-lips on 'em as I can. It is too rounded in profile to allow gripping comfortably for me so I just either would buy a model with an OEM fishtail or replace the P-lip. The angled hole of the P-lip does present a bit of hassle clnr. wise but it's nothing that cant' be dealt with. And I truly never found the diversion of the smoke stream which is supposed to be the P-lips reason to be all that effective in the qualities of how they smoked. It's mainly a "tooth comfort" thing for me Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:38 pm

Well, out of my 12 Pete's only 2 have fishtails if that tells you anything.

While the restriction of the opening on the p-lip does require some getting used to it doesn't have any negative effects for me at least. Although when clenching if I rest the button against the roof of my mouth it'll stop the draw as one would expect.

So, ya, guess I'm a fan of p-lips.


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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:28 pm

It is known I am not a huge fan of the P-Lip. That said, I did bring 3 P-Lips with me out of the 15 pipes I brought on this deployment. They take some getting used to, but will perform about like any other pipe will. The restriction isn't that noticeable to me most of the time, unless I really just want to get through a bowl. Even a p-lip will out-smoke most other pipes IMO, YMMV.
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:23 pm

Thanks for all the input guys, with all your information I decided the only way to see if I like them is to try one, so I bought an estate bulldog K&P Pete

i'll post some pics in a few after I clean her up a lil' bit
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:15 pm

Yak wrote:


But on the prototypical bent system pipe there's a wide lower ridge that's well-suited to hooking over whichever tooth you prefer & letting it dangle comfortably -- no biting involved.


FWIW

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This is my experience also.

P-Lips don't bother me.
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:11 pm

BigCasino wrote:
Thanks for all the input guys, with all your information I decided the only way to see if I like them is to try one, so I bought an estate bulldog K&P Pete

i'll post some pics in a few after I clean her up a lil' bit

Looking forward to pictures. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:04 pm

I'm another one in Kyle's category, I enjoy Peterson Pipes with or without the P-lip stem. The nice thing about Peterson's is that there's a price range for every pocketbook and some of the High Grades are amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:17 pm

Wasn't there just a thread about this? A Peterson's without a P-lip? That's just WRONG...
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:24 pm

Quote :
A Peterson's without a P-lip? That's just WRONG...

You've got one in your avatar . . . scratch

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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:04 pm

I was wondering who would catch that. It's a travesty and a crime against nature, I know. As I said in the other thread, it's my one and only, and many's the time I've thought about getting a new stem for it. I will, one day. I'm deeply ashamed, and if I hadn't wanted the pipe so badly when I found it...well, you know...
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:25 pm

Well, I'm in the no thanks camp on this one. Dries my palate out. I've filed down P stems into proper fishtails. But it takes some doin.
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:34 pm

I have only owned and smoked one P-Lip, a Peterson (of course) rusticated Zulu I had for two months back in 1970-1971, somewhere are then. Loved the pipe, hated the stem. I gave the pipe away.

I regret that now. And I can't find the pipe offered anywhere after looking for several years in all the usual places.
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PostSubject: Re: P-Lip   Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:10 pm

I have been into pipes for just under a year, but I find the p-lip to be preferable to a std fishtail. It is much easier for me to clench my XL23 with the p-lip stem and I find that the upward pitch of the smoke to be more to my liking.

Not to say that I would ever limit my self one way or the other, but when I seek out a Peterson I look for a p-lip
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