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Isagar

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PostSubject: Estate: over reamed chamber   Mon May 13, 2013 10:52 pm

So I got my eye on this estate from smokingpipes.com.
The photos looks good, but the condition report claims it got 'over reamed chambers' and the score is 4.2/5.
Now i would think over reamed meant it had gone thru to the wood (not sure if it's even or uneven).
Is it a dealbreaker? the pipe is just a bit north of a 100 bucks.
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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Mon May 13, 2013 11:32 pm

IOW, the reaming's gone into the walls.

The question is, how far ?

And how much that will bother you if you buy it without a return-unsmoked-for-refund guarantee & realise it's more disfigured than you'd expected from the picture(s).

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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Tue May 14, 2013 12:22 am

You might fire them an e-mail asking how deep it goes. Also ask if they'd accept a return if it is worse than the photos depict.

Can't hurt.... :shrug:

I suspect that smokingpipes.com wouldn't misrepresent the condition of a pipe just to make a quick sale. They're a pretty good outfit in my book.

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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Tue May 14, 2013 6:32 am

I would assume it's most definitely smokeable to say the least. Else I doubt smokngpipes.com will put it up for sale.
But the thing is I have no idea of all the issues that an over reamed pipe can cause. The obvious one and only one I can think of is burn outs. But I'm a slow smoker so it shouldn't be much of an issue. Not to mention the pipe's bowl is quite thick.
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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Tue May 14, 2013 10:33 am

Depends on how much over-reamed. I have a Peterson's I bought at a junk shop that's been cut into a bit; it's one of my favorite pipes.
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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Tue May 14, 2013 11:12 am

"Over reaming" is kinda common, but isn't necessarily a deal breaker. I think Smoking Pipes has a comment on its site saying unsmoked returns are ok.

P.S. -- This is an example that there is such a thing as "over reaming." In most cases there is no need to make the reamer a frequent visitor to your briars. Aftre 50 years of piping, I have never owned a reamer and find that artful chipping with a pipe tool and very light sanding does the trick. Problem is, I think, if you buy a reamer and learn how to use it, you will want to keep in practice. Others' opinions may vary.
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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Tue May 14, 2013 11:14 am

Never used (or needed) one.

95% estates.

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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Tue May 14, 2013 12:29 pm

Have used my Reem-n-Klean reamer for over 30 years now and NEVER over reamed a pipe. I might use it once a year on a pipe, but only if it's needed, ie more cake than I like developing, so it's been worthwhile for me. I think most cases of "over reaming" are due to folks lack of skill in doing it regardless the manner of reaming or tool used. Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Tue May 14, 2013 2:21 pm

My Kleen-Reem tool only gets used for new (to me) estate pipes that have serious cake build-up, as I prefer a pretty minimal cake. Plus, the hand-drill in the shank of the Kleen-Reem is very handy for truing the airway once in a while. Beyond that, reaming is something done little by little, with a pipe nail or gentleness with a pen knife, after each smoke--so I never really have to ream in the sense of grind-grind-grind-grind dump-out-black/brown-dust grind-grind-grind-grind (etc).

Sometimes a pipe will be a bit oversmoked and develop a charred layer, often accompanied by cracks and fissures, in the briar. In older pipes, I find this is just a shrinking, heating, cooling and drying of solid briar wood over time, smoke after smoke, and isn't necessarily bad--worked on a billiard recently that was just that, certainly not abused, just old and well-smoked. The wood is solid, just needed some smoothing out with some pipe mud to fill in the gaps. On the other hand, there's the hotly-abused briar, wherein if someone were to "ream" the soft char of burnt briar, crevices and concave excavations can be made in the pipe walls. When looked into from above with a flashlight, the bottom or mid-sections of the bowl will be larger inside than at the rim.

So, over-reamed or over-smoked and THEN reamed? 🤷

Either way, as long as it ain't too bad, a careful coating of properly-mixed pipe mud be formed into a new layer once the surfaces are cleaned up (in the case of old pipe, or new abused pipe) and the bowl trued to its original shape. Gives the smoker a second chance, as well as the pipe. Working on a chubby Savinelli for another friend for just this reason.

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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Wed May 15, 2013 12:21 am

If it's not deeply gouged, you can re-break it in very conscientiously. With thin spots in the bowl you can slowly cake it up so it's well protected. It requires patience, but can be a fine smoker in spite of a defect such as that.

I have an estate Sasieni pipe that was smoked very hard by it's previous owner. Enough so that there were three deep chars in the wood. After scraping it out and getting all the charred wood off, I slowly began to smoke it. I was extremely cautious of not overheating it. A few years later those divots have slowly filled in with rock hard cake and it performs like a champ.

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PostSubject: Re: Estate: over reamed chamber   Wed May 15, 2013 11:15 am

Smoking Pipes has a list of what they're evaluations and grading equate to in real world application somewhere. From what I remember they're definition of over-reamed was pretty strict. So unless the description goes further (actually says over-reamed to the point of effecting the manner in which the pipe will smoke), I wouldn't be concerned.
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