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Fr_Tom

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Location : Diocese of Northern Indiana
Registration date : 2013-05-29

PostSubject: Tire failure   Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:22 pm

This is from a Crown Victoria we bought 20K miles ago. It does not get driven much, and the tires on it were old and nearing end of life, but there was no urgency - until last night. My wife took this car to pick my daughter up from college. She reported that there was a wobble in the steering and then it pulled to the right like the tire was low.

Anyway...   we are getting a new set of tires for it today, but I thought the brothers might be interested in a picture.

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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:00 pm

From looking at that tire, I'd guess that your car might need an alignment as well. When they wear one side like that it usually means too much toe either in or out.

Be safe out there.
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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:13 pm

swhipple wrote:
From looking at that tire, I'd guess that your car might need an alignment as well.
I got it aligned when we bought the car. It could be out again. The tire had a lot more tread before this trip!
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Fr_Tom

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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:45 pm

I got a smokin' deal on some Arizonian Silver takeoffs. The casting whiskers are nubs but not worn off. It handles like a new car - or like a new '98 Crown Victoria anyway...
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PostSubject: Tires   Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:23 pm

Fr Tom I don't know about the age of the tires, but tires should be replaced every 5 yrs regardless of mileage on tires, glad no one was hurt in an accident.
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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:39 pm

YIKES No  Glad it didn't blow and they are okay.
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Fr_Tom

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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:42 pm

There is more to this story, as you might have expected. We got the new tires on and promptly had a tie rod end break. The resulting front end failure damaged the inside sidewall of one of the new tires.

The mechanic said that sometimes a tie rod can have a crack in it and not really show symptoms like play. We had the front end aligned about 20K miles before this happened, and there was no sign of an issue then. My regular mechanic is pretty good about noticing things like this. There was no squeaking from the front end. It just gave out.

My theory is that the tie rod end cracked and this was what caused the problem leading to this tire failure. It is hard to imagine not hearing a noise or feeling something pretty dramatic in the front end, but my wife was driving, and she may have had the radio up or been thinking about other things. Who knows? It happened though, and the tire place inspected things and did not see a cause for failure. Until the tie-rod end came apart, there had not been any other symptoms besides this tire failure, and we did not know to suspect the tie-rod end. So we had the bad tie rod replaced and a rigorous inspection of the others. The bottom right one got swapped out too. The front end was aligned once more.

So - new tire with sidewall damage. I took it to the place I had bought the tires and the manager heard my story. I asked him if he could give me a discount on a matching replacement tire. He said he was the manager and had just decided the tire was defective. They would replace it for free and not charge for the mount balance. He said he appreciated my business.


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PostSubject: Manager   Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:46 pm

And he has your business forever and ever. Good for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:02 pm

That's pretty crazy. I'm glad your wife didn't get hurt. I was initially guessing a steel band or two broke causing the wobble, pull and eventual break. But, a tie rod would certainly do it too!
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Fr_Tom

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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:59 pm

cajun wrote:
And he has your business forever and ever. Good for him.
No lie... They are a great shop anyway and get all my business already, and that may have influenced his decision.
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Fr_Tom

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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:00 pm

Growley wrote:
That's pretty crazy. I'm glad your wife didn't get hurt. I was initially guessing a steel band or two broke causing the wobble, pull and eventual break. But, a tie rod would certainly do it too!
I am glad she did not get hurt either. If you have a tie rod let go, it is better at 25 mph and no traffic then at 70 mph in Chicago.
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PostSubject: Re: Tire failure   Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:25 pm

A cautionary tale Padre!

Great CS btw!



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