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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:04 am

I own pipes which can only be enjoyed with the tobacco the pipe prefers. And this is a fact.

I don't care what others say, I KNOW what I KNOW
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:55 pm

"Never Read Between The Lines". Evil or Very Mad 

You won't like what you find and no good ever comes of it. JMOH.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:16 pm

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Well crap. More power to Mr. Pease. He's top notch in my book.

Ditto.

And I will reiterate with an example. I have a Freehand pipe from Boswell that I use to smoke Silver Flake in exclusively. This pipe focuses the sweetness of the tobacco to the point where it's sweet to taste on the tongue, rather than just aroma. I have sampled Silver Flake in almost every pipe I own at one point or another. This pipe absolutely sets this flake off to the point where the sugary sweetness and honey like tone of the VA and spice of the Kentucky are in perfect harmony. It's divine really. I won't smoke SF in anything else, the difference is that substantial. What differentiates this pipe from my others? Conical shaped bowl. Interestingly enough, my other conical shaped bowl Dublin smokes the beejeezus out of Embarcadero. Nuances galore. In my other pipes that I have set aside for VA's not so much. Yeah, I am a believer. Experience trumps here.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:23 pm

DrumsAndBeer wrote:
Interestingly enough, my other conical shaped bowl Dublin smokes the beejeezus out of Embarcadero. Nuances galore. In my other pipes that I have set aside for VA's not so much. Yeah, I am a believer. Experience trumps here.

I tried Embarcadero and was not all that impressed. It was ok and all, but nothing too special. Then I tried it in a Kirsten - truncated cone for a bowl shape. It rocked, and every bowl seemed to get better until it was gone.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:45 pm

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I tried Embarcadero and was not all that impressed. It was ok and all, but nothing too special. Then I tried it in a Kirsten - truncated cone for a bowl shape. It rocked, and every bowl seemed to get better until it was gone.

Very interesting Tom.

My favorite Balkan is Margate. It's simple, complex, wonderfully fragrant, almost incense like. It was love at first smoke. The pipe that I was happening to use to enjoy it was a prince with a fairly square shaped bowl. Months later I read this and I thought "Well I'll be damned" -

http://www.apassionforpipes.com/neills-blog/2010/10/28/finding-that-magic-fit-between-pipe-and-tobacco.html

I immediately put this to experiment. You see I enjoy Margate in that Sav Prince so much that it became my Margate/oriental pipe. I was blown away by how different it tasted in my billiards. Still fragrant, still tasty but the tone was not the same and the balance was altered dramatically compared to what I was used to tasting. Aromas, and flavors and memories of those things are tricky. Some think pipes are just tools, but I think they play a major roll in how we perceive what we burn in them.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:43 pm

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zonomo wrote:
Thanks Oce - this makes sense.   I guess I didnt know there were different types of Briar but now that I think of it, their age, density, etc could affect the taste.  About 3 months ago, I started keeping track of which tobacco I am smoking in my 31 pipes.  I have to admit that I do have a few misses that I need to adjust.  I also have a few that are really perfect.  

31 pipes? Judas Priest man! I hate to clean the 10-11 I have in rotation, can't imagine at the end of the month doing a thorough clean to 31 pipes. I took me two hours today doing 12 plus one restoration and I was glad to be done.

...what he said!

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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:53 pm

Do different pipes affect taste? Absolutely!!! Smile 

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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:33 pm

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Do different pipes affect taste? Absolutely!!! Smile 

AJ

What AJ said!

And I don't over-analyse it. Just use what works.

 jocolor 



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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:53 pm

Late entry -- You have neatly IDed the value of a smoker's diary. No need for lengthy entries. Just enter the tobacco, the pipe and your brief reaction. A number or letter grade system would probably be sufficient. Time passes, and you can quickly ID which pipes and blends hit it off. You'll also see that some pipes are betters with aros, others with Vas, others with English. Yes, at first the thought sounds kinda OCD. But the entries need be no longer than you care to make them. You can even skip days when the entry might read, "MM, burley, B+."
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:50 pm

I own a number of pipes that do much better with a certain blend than wiith another type. For example SG Full Virginia Flake sings in my group 4 Dublins but does lousy in a group 5 Lovat. I have a number of combinations that I dedicate a certain pipe to a certain blend and only after extensive experimenting did I find these combos.

I think Greg is absolutely right when he stated.

" Finding those special combinations that just "work" better than all the others is part of the mystery and joy of pipe smoking."




I am always looking for those magical combos and when I find them, I stick to them exclusively. Yes many of my pipes smoke many of my flakes very nicely and many of my pipes are so good that they can smoke a plethora of different blends equally as well, but when those magical combo's hit, I pay strict attention to that fact and never stray when that combo hits. Part of the fun of pipe smoking is finding those magical pipe and blend combo's so I am always on the lookout for them.

Recently I found that my Peterson Irish Flake smokes incredibly well in my Stephen Downie Apple, so that is the pipe I will be reaching for when I am in the mood for Irish Flake.

Greg, I hope you stick around as your advice in my opinion is irreplaceable. You have been at this so much longer than most of us, plus you come at if from the side of blender and a person who has been collecting some pretty high quality pipes for decades. That kind of knowledge does not grow on trees and anyone who does not understand what you bring to the table is really missing out on learning a ton of great stuff. People should understand how blessed we are that that you take the time to answer our questions and to make statements of your own that bring your knowledge to the party. I sincerely hope the people at this site understand how lucky they are that Greg even gives us the time of day. There are so many in the industry who could not be bothered with us as they are generally to busy to post on sites like this.

I had been around a cigar site for over 11 years and when Carlos Fuente Jr, or Johnny Oliva or any of the true legends of the industry imparted their wisdom, we all appreciated the time they would spend with us and were grateful at the knowledge they would share with us.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:42 pm

Yes.

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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:45 am

gnossos wrote:


Out of curiosity, what do you do to clean the pipes?  I tend to find a pipecleaner down the stem after a smoke does most of the trick and then a more thorough cleaning whenever it needs it, which isn't too often...
I essentially do the same thing every time. I remove the step and run it through, bit side first. Then I re-run it through heel side. With that same pipe cleaner, I run it through the heal, usually folded in 1/2. I re-fold it in 1/2 so its now 4ths and clean the bowl. I probably clean it after every 2-4 smokes. Don't know if this is right nor not but thats what Ive been doing.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:56 am

Fr_Tom wrote:


I tried Embarcadero and was not all that impressed. It was ok and all, but nothing too special. Then I tried it in a Kirsten - truncated cone for a bowl shape. It rocked, and every bowl seemed to get better until it was gone.
So this is exactly why I asked this question. I wanted to know everyone's experience in doing this. I have a particular pipe that its a pure joy when I smoke McClellands Tropical but it doesnt seems to smoke as well in my Savi Bumble Bee. I chalked it up to me just being a newbie.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:59 am

KevinM wrote:
Late entry -- You have neatly IDed the value of a smoker's diary. No need for lengthy entries. Just enter the tobacco, the pipe and your brief reaction. A number or letter grade system would probably be sufficient. Time passes, and you can quickly ID which pipes and blends hit it off. You'll also see that some pipes are betters with aros, others with Vas, others with English. Yes, at first the thought sounds kinda OCD. But the entries need be no longer than you care to make them. You can even skip days when the entry might read, "MM, burley, B+."
I like this idea. I keep a journal of what pipe goes with what tobacco but I havent really "rated them". This is a good idea. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:22 pm

Keeping your pipe clean is a real must if you are going to get the most out of your blends.

Here is my procedure that I never deviate from.

After I have smoked a bowl, I let the pipe cool over night. I then break down the pipe, and take two fluffy cleaners, double them and then run them along the inside of the bowl getting any ash or left over tobacco. I then, blow through the shank and also getting anything loose.

I then take a bristled cleaner, double it and then run it through the shank twisting it around a few times and them going back and forth a few times. I will do this until the pipe cleaner comes out clean. Some of my pipes have a large enough shank that I need two pipe cleaners doubled so that they get enough friction to get the dirt out. My Ruthernbergs, my lone Butera and my lone Castello are the only ones that need two cleaners doubled over as the shank dimensions are around 4.3-4.7 mm. Now onto cleaning my stems. I will take two bristled cleaners side by side and run them through the stem, and then take 2 fluffy cleaners and do the same thing. Only my Rad Davis and Brian Ruthenberg stems can take the two cleaners through the stem. This is my procedure after every smoke, then around the 10th-15th bowl smoked I do a deep cleaning with Everclear, shank brushes, bristled and fluffy pipe cleaners along with my Obidisian stem oil which keeps my stems looking great. I then use my Dunhill polishing cloth to shine the pipe up. Im used to use Denicare pipe polish but took Roths recommendation that the Dunhill polishing cloth did a great job and was much more economical thaan the Denicare polish. He was absolutely right about the Dunhill cloth.

Some people may feel that I am a bit over the top in my use of pipe cleaners and cleaning like I do after every smoke but I have found that my tobacco always tastes really good and I have never had a pipe sour on me ever. Yes it takes a bit of work, but I would much rather do this than have a lousy tasting pipe. It is very easy for your tobacco to taste like crap due to a dirty pipe so I make sure my pipe is never dirty. I also believe that by letting my pipe cool over night, the cake has time to harden and I get a really nice hard cake on all my pipes. I never break apart a pipe that is still warm or that has not cooled overnight. I began doing this since the beginning and have found it works well for me so I stick with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:34 pm

Well I can see I have a lot to learn. I don't ever do the deep clean with everclear. Not sure I know how. You don't happen to have a YouTube on that do you? Smile I know one thing for certain, the Savi Bumble Bee that you restored for me was pristine when I got it back. Back to the drawing board for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:50 pm

zonomo, are you speaking to me about that Sav as I don't remember ever having done a restoration on a pipe for anyone.

Everclear is the best at getting the gunk out of your shank and stems. What I like about it specifically is that is drinkable as I will not clean my pipe with anything that is not drinkable.

I also go through a few shank brushes on my deep cleanings. There may be a you tube video somewhere out there but I have never made one.

When I am doing my deep cleanings I am usually watching my two sons do them as I taught them both at an early age how to properly clean a pipe with Everclear and shank brushes as I hate doing it so I make them do it. In fact my youngest son is going to be cleaning ten pipes this weekend for me as my oldest is in California looking to make his way out there after he graduated college. I will have to begin cleaning my own again as I cannot expect my youngest son to do all the work.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:53 pm

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zonomo, are you speaking to me about that Sav as I don't remember ever having done a restoration on a pipe for anyone.
Well, now that I am 50, I get incredibly confused incredibly easy.  geek 
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:31 pm

Did I ever sell you a Savinelli? If I did then the pipe would have been pristine as I would have had my youngest son do the work as he is a little better than the older one.

I have sold a few Savs in the last year as one(Hercules model) went to Eaglerico from PM, another went to Samcoffeeman( an Autograph) from PM and not sure who got the other one. Did it have a cumberland stem?
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:13 pm

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Did I ever sell you a Savinelli? If I did then the pipe would have been pristine as I would have had my youngest son do the work as he is a little better than the older one.

I have sold a few Savs in the last year as one(Hercules model) went to Eaglerico from PM, another went to Samcoffeeman( an Autograph) from PM and not sure who got the other one. Did it have a cumberland stem?
nope. i was just a little confused.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:36 pm

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".... I will have to begin cleaning my own again as I cannot expect my youngest son to do all the work."

What do you think families are for, distribution of labor  Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:25 pm

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cigrmaster wrote:
".... I will have to begin cleaning my own again as I cannot expect my youngest son to do all the work."

What do you think families are for, distribution of labor  Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 
I think we're on to something here. I need to teach my 7 y/o step son the finer points of pipe cleaning. Actually, we does love it when we spend time together doing dude stuff. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:33 pm

This might be hard to believe but my wife insists on helping me, cleaning my pipes  Very Happy  She buys my tobaccos when she's at the mall, knows exactly what I smoke. The guys at the tobacco shop is almost in love with her, says she's the only woman they know who cares so much about her hubby.
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:37 pm

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This might be hard to believe but my wife insists on helping me, cleaning my pipes  Very Happy   She buys my tobaccos when she's at the mall, knows exactly what I smoke. The guys at the tobacco shop is almost in love with her, says she's the only woman they know who cares so much about her hubby.
wow! Wife of the Year!  santa 
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PostSubject: Re: Do different pipes affect taste?   Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:59 pm

zonomo wrote:
SpeedyPete wrote:
This might be hard to believe but my wife insists on helping me, cleaning my pipes  Very Happy   She buys my tobaccos when she's at the mall, knows exactly what I smoke. The guys at the tobacco shop is almost in love with her, says she's the only woman they know who cares so much about her hubby.
wow!  Wife of the Year!    santa 

Ya, you got a keeper there SP!

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