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PostSubject: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Wed May 27, 2015 9:14 pm

Here are my reviews of the Daughters & Ryan blends I have tried. I know some think that most of their blends are ďroll your ownĒ, but I have found thatís not necessarily true. While some easily fall into that category, a number of them do not, and all are worth smoking in a pipe. Many of them are shag cut, and all are dry out of the bag or tin, so I always recommend a slow puffing cadence when you smoke them, though I prefer hydrated tobacco. Youíre not paying for water weight. Many of these blends have no casings or toppings, so you can expect true tobacco flavor in most of these products.


Athey:
The Virginia is grassy, hay-like, and citrusy sweet with a slight honey note, and stands out beyond what else you will taste. All the toppings are very mild, with the molasses being more noticeable than the others. The Scotch/Drambuie is lightly, sweetly evident, and I donít know what the ďlight botanical toppingĒ is, but the slight floral essence from it plays well with the other flavors as does every other one I previously noted. Has a mild to medium nic-hit. Burns fast but cool with a consistent flavor, no moisture and a pleasing after taste. A nice work and play smoke.

Avanti:
I donít get any vanilla from the black cavendish, so it must be unsweetened. The double toasted burley is indeed toasty and nutty with a slight sharpness. The Virginias are grass and hay with some natural sweetness. Blender Mark Ryan said that there are ďseven proprietary toppings that I am not at liberty to disclose.Ē Toppings are, next to orientals, the hardest thing to figure out most of the time, and I canít figure out which ones this product uses. They do somewhat sublimate the tobacco taste. I sense both a dry and a sweet wine, and something that gives a feel of alcohol. Iím thinking both red and white wine are in the mix, particularly the latter. Iím no liquor expert, but the presence of one or more is obvious to me, and I suspect drambuie is one of them. I also get a hint of orange and a slight floral essence. Burns at a moderate pace with a sweet, consistent flavor like none Iíve ever tasted in a tobacco blend. A smooth, cool and dry smoke that leaves virtually no moisture in the bowl. Has a little nicotine, and a nice after taste and room note.

Cockstrong:
The burley is the star component: toasty, nutty and oat-like, with a little sharp earthiness and a touch of sweetness. The flue cured gold leaf is grassy with a touch of citrus. The Orientals are dry, woody, and lightly smoky. There are no toppings. I did encounter a few cigarette notes along the way, but it didnít detract from the experience. Youíll notice all the flavors in every puff. Burns well with almost or no relights, and leaves no moisture. Has a very noticeable nic-hit. Performs best when smoked slowly. Though it isnít as strong as the name may indicate, itís just over the all day smoke threshold.

English Hoopla:
The Cyprian latakia is smoky, woody with a mild sweetness. The Oriental is woody with a slight sour note, a little earth, and toward the finish, seems to have a spice note. The Virginia is grassy, citrusy sweet, and acts as the base for the other components to play off. Itís the least noticeable of the three tobaccos. Even though the latakia takes the lead over the other ingredients, it doesnít over take the Oriental and Virginia. The anisette and vanilla toppings are lightly applied, with the former being a little more obvious than the latter. Both are smooth with some creaminess, and they do not detract from the flavors of the tobaccos. Has a moderate nic-hit. Well balanced, it burns at a moderate pace with very few relights with a cool consistency, and leaves virtual no moisture in the bowl.

London Dock:
The double toasted burley is the basic star; toasty, a little sweet, grassy, earthy and nutty. The Virginia is citrus, grass and hay. The Oriental offers a sour note and wood in a minor way. The perique is slightly noticeable with spice, and a touch of raisins and figs. The coumarin is very slightly vanilla-like, and adds a nice floral context. The rum is very mild and sweet. Well balanced with a nice complexity, it has a very consistent flavor from the first puff to the last one, but needs to be smoked at a slow to moderate pace to catch them all. Burns well and cool with no dull or harsh spots (unless you puff fast), and leaves no moisture. Three and a half stars, though I am tempted to give it four.

Ramback Regular:
The Turkish is choice: fairly woody, earthy, and toasty, slightly floral and spicy, with a few sweet and sour notes. There are no toppings, and the cut is closer to shag than ribbon. Dry as are all the D&R blends, it burns quickly and can be harsh if you puff fast. Not very nuanced as it is a straight Turkish, and not an all day smoke, but it does well in small to medium doses. Has some nicotine, leaves no moisture. It reminds me a little of smoking a Camel cigarette in your pipe, and if you like that, youíll like this. Would make a good mixer, too.

Rimboche A.B.:
The first thing that hit my taste buds was the tangy spice from the dark fired tobacco that was processed by the perique method. It is a little raisiny, figgy, smoky and woody, too. Thereís a ďtouchĒ of latakia present, but noticeable in most every puff and adds a sweet, very smoky, woodiness. I think more than a touch is present, but the latakia always plays back up. The flue cured gold Virginias are the base for the other components to shine; grassy and hay-like with some citrus and a drop or two of honey. Has no toppings. Very well balanced with a consistent flavor to the finish. Leaves no moisture. It does benefit a little from some hydration, but it does very well dry, and isnít really necessary due to the richness of flavors. And I seldom smoke bone dry tobacco. Has a nice nic-hit. Will not bite, but the spice is pleasantly tingly all the way, including the after taste.

Rimboche, S.J.:
The Virginia is grassy sweet with some citrus and a touch of honey. The Saint James perique is more plumy sweet than peppery in a very complimentary supporting role, and is noticeable in every puff. There are no toppings. I suggest you hydrate this one first, but if you donít, itíll burn fairly quickly without harshness, unless you puff like a winded Superman after a race. The flavor is consistent with a decent nic-hit, and leaves no moisture in the bowl. An all day smoke for the VaPer aficionado who wants a break from heavier blends in this genre.

Rowland Regular:
The Virginia is grassy, citrusy sweet with a drop of honey. The burley is nutty, toasty sweet and well complements the Virginia without over taking it. The Oriental is a minor component, very slightly spicy, smoky and woody. The very light chocolate topping is mildly sweet, and doesnít detract from the tobacco taste. It has a mellowing affect that smooths out the blend. Burns well and cool with hardly a relight, no moisture, and a consistent flavor. Has a slightly more than mild nic-hit.

Ryback:
The burley is toasty, nutty sweet. The Virginia is grassy, citrus sweet. The dark fired Kentucky is earthy, spicy and slightly woody and sweet. Dry as a bone, and being a shag cut, burns quickly, but not harsh unless you puff it fast. I prefer to hydrate it. The spiciness almost dominates the flavor, though the sweetness of the tobaccos is right there to compliment and contrast it. No casing or topping. Has a fair amount of nicotine. Leaves no moisture and if you like this kind of tobacco, you will appreciate the after taste.

Three Sails:
A simple uncomplicated Virginia with natural citrusy sweetness and some grassiness. Reminds me exactly of Three Castles, which I used to enjoy, and I suspect this is what the Castles once was. I also get a few familiar notes that reminds me of Sir Walter Raleigh Aromatic. I'm not comparing those two blends because they are different (e.g., SWRA has a topping and burley, and this has neither), but they both must use a similar type of Virginia. Puff at a slow to moderate rate, and Three Sails will do well, wonít bite or get harsh or amazingly cigarette-like, though youíll get some of the latter no matter how slow you puff. Puff fast, and you risk all of that and more. Leaves no moisture, and being a dry shag cut, burns quickly, but not hot if you pace the smoke. Has a nice nic-note.

Two Timer:
The burley is toasty, and very nutty with natural sweetness. While it may be used as a RYO, itís a good smoke with a little nicotine punch. Puffed at a moderate rate, itíll mostly keep its flavor and not get harsh. Puffed fast, itíll have some cigarette notes, a little loss of flavor and possibly some harshness. Has no casing or topping. Burns quickly, but not hot, clean with no moisture and some nicotine. Nice, uncomplicated all day smoke that does even better with some hydration.

Two Timer Gold:
This is Two Timer with Virginia, and with that exception, the smoking qualities are the same. The burley is toasty, and very nutty with natural sweetness. The Virginia is a little grassy with some citrus and a touch of honey. While it may be used as a RYO, itís a good smoke with a little nicotine punch. Puffed at a moderate rate, itíll mostly keep its flavor and not get harsh. Puffed fast, itíll have some cigarette notes, a little loss of flavor and possibly some harshness. Has no casing or topping. Burns quickly, but not hot, clean with no moisture. Nice, uncomplicated all day smoke that does even better with some hydration.

Vengeur Regular:
The flue-cured Virginia is grassy and mildly sweet with a touch of citrus. The burley is a little toasty, nutty, but has very little sweetness. The Oriental is slightly floral and woody in a supporting role. A thin ribbon cut that burns fairly quickly, this needs to be sipped to avoid harshness, and provide a smooth smoke. Leaves no moisture and has a mild to medium nic-hit. Has no casing or topping. I recommend a little hydration as the tobacco is very dry, which will enhance the flavors a bit. An all day smoke that wears well in repeat performances.

VIP:
The light and brown Virginias are buttery sweet with a hint of grass and earth, and some citrus. The smell of the tobacco from an open tin is fruity: apricots, figs and raisins, and much of that is mildly evident in the smoke. The perique is more fruity than peppery, but the latter is an important part of the experience. The tobacco is dry out of the tin, so you may prefer to hydrate it. I found the flavors stood out more when I did. Burns well, cool and very smooth with a consistent flavor, no dottle, and no chance of bite. The sweet taste never wanes or gets boring, and the after taste pleasantly lingers long enough for you to immediately considering having another bowl right away. It doesn't have much nicotine, and may not have enough strength satisfy hardcore VaPer smokers, but for those who aren't, it's a four star blend.

Williamís Delight:
The double toasted burley is very toasty, and a little sweet, grassy, earthy and nutty. I also got the sense of oats a number of times. Thereís not much of the Orientals present, but they are woody, and have a very minor floral and spice hit along with some sourness. The black cavendish is apparently unsweetened, but it adds some smoothness to the tobaccos. The vanilla casing is extremely mild. This is a coarse cut blend that burns at a moderate rate even when dry. And speaking of dry, the light sour dryness throughout the smoke contrasts with the sweet flavors, but has a slight sour, woody bitterness near the finish. That bitterness lingers as in the after taste as does the sweetness. Has some nicotine, leaves no moisture, and while not a powerhouse, I wouldnít classify this as an all day smoke.
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Thu May 28, 2015 4:17 am

Thank you for your review Jim! I have been considering a few of these tobaccos and the review was very helpful. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Thu May 28, 2015 9:47 am

Well darn, there are a few here I've got to try. Just what I need, more blends on my list. Thanks for the well written and informative reviews Jim.

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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Thu May 28, 2015 11:41 am

Well done, as always. I'm sure Mark will appreciate your kind words. cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Thu May 28, 2015 8:34 pm

Very helpful Jim.

To date I've not sampled any of the D&R line. This will be a great guideline on how to choose the ones that appeal.


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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Thu May 28, 2015 10:44 pm

Jim - Thanks for the great reviews.
How does the D&R London Dock compare to either the original or the Milan Tobacconists version (a personal favorite)?
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Fri May 29, 2015 12:08 am

Big G wrote:
Jim - Thanks for the great reviews.
How does the D&R London Dock compare to either the original or the Milan Tobacconists version (a personal favorite)?

Even though they seem to have the same ingredients, I find the D&R to be very good, but it doesn't quite have the richness of the older versions, mainly due to a little less latakia in the new blend. But I still think you'd like it.
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Fri May 29, 2015 12:15 am

Big G wrote:
Jim - Thanks for the great reviews.
How does the D&R London Dock compare to either the original or the Milan Tobacconists version (a personal favorite)?

I may have to try the Milan version. I was in Roanoke today but didn't have a chance to stop by Milan. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Fri May 29, 2015 1:00 am

eklektos44 wrote:
Big G wrote:
Jim - Thanks for the great reviews.
How does the D&R London Dock compare to either the original or the Milan Tobacconists version (a personal favorite)?

I may have to try the Milan version. I was in Roanoke today but didn't have a chance to stop by Milan. Sad

Here's my review of the Milan Match if it'll help.

The rum topping tastes nice, though it does sublimate the individual tobaccos in both versions. The perique sports a very mild spice note, nearly undetectable in both versions. The Virginia is grassy sweet and is slightly more obvious in the Match. In both versions, the burley is a little nutty with some molasses and a touch of earth. In the original, the Oriental/Turkish was woody and a little smoky with a sour note or two. All of that is less noticeable in the Match, which doesnít have a sour spot to be had. The Match is a little sweeter, a little buttery, a little more aromatic than the original was. Both versions are a fairly pleasant all day smoke with consistent flavor requiring few relights, and just a little moisture at the finish. Itís not an exact Match, but itís in the ballpark.
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Fri May 29, 2015 7:51 am

Thanks Jim. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:34 pm

Windsail Original:
A straight uncomplicated flue cured Virginia that is a little grassy and hay-like, and fairly citrusy with some honey and earth notes. It also has a very light spice hit. The nic-hit is just a shade past the mild mark. The strength and taste are medium. Ribbon cut for very easy burning, it requires few relights. Won't bite or get harsh, leaves no moisture in the bowl and will burn to ash with little trouble. Makes tons of smoke. It may be a one dimensional smoke, but it's a very flavorful all day no nonsense blend, and not every pipe tobacco product has to be complex to enjoy. Would make a good mixer, though I prefer to smoke it as it is. I give it three and a half stars out of four.
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:54 pm

Rimboche A.P.

The flu-cured gold leaf Virginias are a little grassy with a minor earth note, and mild amount of citrus and fruit. The Acadian perique offers tangy pepper with a little prune and fig, and are evident in every single puff as a contrasting supporting player. The tobaccos meld well to create a very consistent flavor with a slight smokey quality, and is more a dry smoke rather than a sweet one. There are no toppings. The nic-hit is moderate. The strength and taste are mild to medium. Dry out of the tin, I recommend a little hydration for best effect. It brings out the flavors a little more, and slows the burn rate a mite. Requires almost no relights as it easily burns to ash, leaving no moisture in the bowl. Iíve smoked bowls without a relight. Has no dull or harsh spots, and will not bite. Has a nice peppery, slightly woody after taste, and makes nice clouds of smoke.
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:28 pm

JimInks wrote:
eklektos44 wrote:
Big G wrote:
Jim - Thanks for the great reviews.
How does the D&R London Dock compare to either the original or the Milan Tobacconists version (a personal favorite)?

I may have to try the Milan version. I was in Roanoke today but didn't have a chance to stop by Milan. Sad

Here's my review of the Milan Match if it'll help...


JimInks: Thanks for the reviews. Without having smoked it, I admit to being somewhat skeptical about Milan's offering. In their description they refer to "the very popular non-aromatic London Dock that was discontinued by Middleton approximately 20 years ago."

Hmmm... †Suspect

If you're comparing the "match" blends you reviewed to the Middleton version of London Dock, you're not comparing them to the original, which was made by Kentucky Club (K.C.), not Middleton. John Middleton bought the Kentucky Club brand in the late 1980s. I don't know whether they changed the original London Dock recipe; I never smoked the Middleton version. But it seems likely that it wasn't the same as the original; they've changed the other K.C. tobaccos they manufacture.

The other thing that makes me wonder how close Milan's version is to the original is their description of the Middleton version. I think it's quite a stretch to characterize the original K.C. London Dock as a non-aromatic. It was definitely cased with some kind of sauce. It's inconceivable that any combination of natural tobaccos could approximate such a unique aroma and flavor. So, if Middleton's version was indeed a non-aromatic, it seems even more unlikely that it matched the original.

Anyhow, Daughters & Ryan's version sounds like it might be closer to the mark. It would be interesting to do an A/B comparison with the original; I have a jar of K.C. London Dock in my cellar, hermetically sealed and well-preserved. It has mellowed somewhat with age, but it still retains the unique character that made the original K.C. London Dock such a distinctive tobacco.

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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:39 pm

Vito wrote:
JimInks wrote:
eklektos44 wrote:
Big G wrote:
Jim - Thanks for the great reviews.
How does the D&R London Dock compare to either the original or the Milan Tobacconists version (a personal favorite)?

I may have to try the Milan version. I was in Roanoke today but didn't have a chance to stop by Milan. Sad

Here's my review of the Milan Match if it'll help...


JimInks: Thanks for the reviews. Without having smoked it, I admit to being somewhat skeptical about Milan's offering. In their description they refer to "the very popular non-aromatic London Dock that was discontinued by Middleton approximately 20 years ago."

Hmmm... †Suspect

If you're comparing the "match" blends you reviewed to the Middleton version of London Dock, you're not comparing them to the original, which was made by Kentucky Club (K.C.), not Middleton. John Middleton bought the Kentucky Club brand in the late 1980s. I don't know whether they changed the original London Dock recipe; I never smoked the Middleton version. But it seems likely that it wasn't the same as the original; they've changed the other K.C. tobaccos they manufacture.

The other thing that makes me wonder how close Milan's version is to the original is their description of the Middleton version. I think it's quite a stretch to characterize the original K.C. London Dock as a non-aromatic. It was definitely cased with some kind of sauce. It's inconceivable that any combination of natural tobaccos could approximate such a unique aroma and flavor. So, if Middleton's version was indeed a non-aromatic, it seems even more unlikely that it matched the original.

Anyhow, Daughters & Ryan's version sounds like it might be closer to the mark. It would be interesting to do an A/B comparison with the original; I have a jar of K.C. London Dock in my cellar, hermetically sealed and well-preserved. It has mellowed somewhat with age, but it still retains the unique character that made the original K.C. London Dock such a distinctive tobacco.


My comparison of the Match was with Milan's version, which is a clone of the Middleton version. I have smoked the earlier version you mentioned, and totally agree with you. They are different.
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:40 pm

Penhooker:
The flue-cured style gold leaf Virginias is half Canadian. They offer some grass, a touch of earth and wood, and some citrus. Iím not sure what the casing is, but itís sweet and seems to have a small amount of sugar and perhaps fruit. It's very mildly applied. The nic-hit is moderate. The strength is mild and the taste is mild to medium. Needs hydration to bring out the flavors a little and to slow down the burn rate. Not a complex blend by any means, but itís a ribbon cut that burns well with a consistent, gentle flavor to the finish. Leaves no moisture in the bowl, wonít bite, and has no dull or harsh spots. Barely needs any relights even when you puff at a normal pace, which I recommend. Has a very pleasant semi-sweet, very light woody after taste. The room note isnít pungent. Makes lots of smoke, too. Would make a good mixer, although I prefer it as is.
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PostSubject: Re: Jim's D&R Reviews.   Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:13 pm

D&R Picayune:
The flue cured gold leaf offers some citrus and grass/hay as the base of the blend, though itís sublimated by the other tobaccos. The dry, woody, smoky, nutty, earthy lightly peppery dark fired burley melds with the spicy, raisin and fig perique, and the floral, dry, woody, earthy mildly sour, vegetative cigar-like Samsun to create a full bodied, well blended product that can be smoked straight by experienced smokers as well as being used as a mixer. The nic-hit is just above medium. The strength and taste are full. Wonít bite, but may get a little harsh and cigarette-like if puffed fast. Itís dry and benefits from a little hydration. Being a virtual shag cut, it burns quickly with a very clean, consistent flavor. Leaves no moisture in the bowl, and hardly needs a relight. The strong after taste and room notes will linger. Not an all day smoke, and not for the novice. †I suggest a small bowl if you smoke it straight.
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