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smoker13



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PostSubject: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:38 pm

Well, I found some members who agreed with me when I posted my pet peeve about coated bowls, and plenty more who voted the opposite way, and still some who didn't care one way or another.  But the one thing all of the posts had in common were they were interesting to read.

Well here goes, I'm firing away with another one of my pet peeves, I was just reminded of how much I disliked and just plain couldn't understand: WHITE STEMS.  I mean, a pipe craftsman presents a beautifully worked briar shape and the fluidity, the whole motion of the piece just stops dead when it hits that white stem.  To me, the pipe just doesn't seem to move as a unified piece.  It's an immediate dealbreaker.  No matter how much I love the bowl and shank, I will not purchase a pipe with a white stem, period.

So what say ye, fellow pipesmokers and pipe purchasers - does the white stem bother you as much as it does me?
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:49 pm

They don't look quite right to me, either.
Don't have any.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:56 pm

I have an Albin I like the looks of quite a bit.



The stem provides a nice contrast.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:06 am

Different strokes for different folks. Not for me either but thankfully one doesn't see many. Not really worth the effort to get upset about for me Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:11 am

"Not really worth the effort to get upset about" for me either, monbla. Hence, the relegation to the category of "pet peeve". It just pops up when surveying some pipes with an eye to purchase and seeing one with promise but that damn stem spoils the enthusiasm.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:57 am

The one pictured is the first I've ever seen, so I'm guessing it's not a big problem...
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:29 am

I like to wear white dress shirts and see white blouses on wimmin, but that's about it for me liking white. I agree with you in general, but it depends on the pipe. The pipe posted above, for example, "works" because the stem isn't pure white. But I know what you're talking about: a perfectly shaped rhodesian or whatever, then the stupid brassard sticks a blindingly white stem on it. It just looks too incongruous, a clown pipe.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:35 am

Richard Burley wrote:
I like to wear white dress shirts and see white blouses on wimmin, but that's about it for me liking white. I agree with you in general, but it depends on the pipe. The pipe posted above, for example, "works" because the stem isn't pure white. But I know what you're talking about: a perfectly shaped rhodesian or whatever, then the stupid brassard sticks a blindingly white stem on it. It just looks too incongruous, a clown pipe.

Ardor and Pipa Croci like to go off on such tangents. Matter of taste really.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:51 am

My turn off leather wrapped Very Happy pipes. Just creppy.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:01 pm

For the most part I'm not crazy about white stems. But every once in a while I'll see one that fits the pipe. The one pictured in this post is such a pipe.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:09 pm

Well, apparently I'm still more of a newbie than I thought, because I immediately replied to eklektik's post and I see, or rather CAN'T see it now.

I pointed out that that pipe IS gorgeous and I'd love to own it myself, but it does NOT represent what I'm complaining about. The stem is not completely white, it also is carved ini such a way as to provide angles that complement the shank and bowl as well as provide shadows that break up the color of the stem.

My problem is with those stems that are purely white and smooth, a perfect fit, as Richard has given an example of , to something like a Rhodesian. A stem that just completely breaks up the flow of the profile of the pipe.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:22 pm

I think they can look great in photos, so I guess I like them. Depending on how opaque the material is, they could get ugly really quickly. I've seen some sharp Ardor and Roush white and whitish stems, but I really like the pop of a colored stem. They can surely get gaudy, but to me, that has more to do with shaping, twelve rings of other materials, and the maker getting carried away with it all. I'm not even a fan of a simple silver band. A white stem with a logo is good. Start adding ridges and shoulders and obsidian rings...no thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:42 pm

Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Ron posted one of his creations recently with a smooth white, flush stem. I'd not paid a huge amount of attention to white stemmed pipes before, but this one of Ron's changed my thinking. Looked stunning!

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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:56 pm

Stick wrote:
Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Ron posted one of his creations recently with a smooth  white, flush stem. I'd not paid a huge amount of attention to white stemmed pipes before, but this one of Ron's changed my thinking. Looked stunning!


Stark white can be a bit rough on the eye's but, I think put on the right pipe it can make all the difference.
The ones I've done were more of a off white/Ivory color and in my eyes looked well with them.

And thank you Stick.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:53 pm

Cartaphilus wrote:
Stick wrote:
Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Ron posted one of his creations recently with a smooth  white, flush stem. I'd not paid a huge amount of attention to white stemmed pipes before, but this one of Ron's changed my thinking. Looked stunning!


Stark white can be a bit rough on the eye's but, I think put on the right pipe it can make all the difference.
The ones I've done were more of a off white/Ivory color and in my eyes looked well with them.

And thank you Stick.

Not usually a fan of white stems, but agree that Ron's pipe changed my way of thinking.



Cheers,

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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:20 am

This is the kind of thing I find seriously unattractive. Why they chose to go down this road I have no idea.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ardor-Moon-Tobacco-Pipe-MN132-/182008348521?hash=item2a608aff69:g:-g8AAOSwL7VWrWvK
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:54 am

On some pipes they work, on others no....

I can't say I'm too bothered either way.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:54 am

I was ambivalent towards white stems until I saw Ron's great example and almost simultaneously picked up a beautifully blasted GBD Prehistoric poker with a lovely pearlescent white stem which works really well on the pipe.

My two scintillas

Cheers

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:49 am

eklektos44 - I think Ardor brought that pipe out to commemorate the Chickenpox virus!
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:20 pm

smoker13 wrote:
eklektos44 - I think Ardor brought that pipe out to commemorate the Chickenpox virus!

It's pretty hideous. Seems like I saw a Savinelli somewhere that they thought would be a good idea to put polka dots on. They were wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:26 pm

eklektos44 wrote:
This is the kind of thing I find seriously unattractive. Why they chose to go down this road I have no idea.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ardor-Moon-Tobacco-Pipe-MN132-/182008348521?hash=item2a608aff69:g:-g8AAOSwL7VWrWvK

One word- FUGLY!





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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:43 pm

I got a stummel here that didn't come out quite right because of a good size pit, maybe we'll try Polka dots and see if I can make it even more wrong.

And Thank you BD and Tim! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:18 pm

I've seen some pipes with white stem, very few though. My eye says 'interesting', my mind says 'that'll look terrible in a few years'. But I'll say this, they seem every bit as viable as a new Meerschaum with a black stem....
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:28 pm

White meer with black stem? Doesn't the meer color enough in a few days to match the stem? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Yet Another Pet Peeve   Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:45 pm

The red dots are kinda cute in a hipster sort of way Twisted Evil But the execution of these leaves a lot to be desired Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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