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PostSubject: consistency of Sam gawith    Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:29 am

well as stated in an earlier review - i finally tried some Samuel Gawith - the winter time and commonwealth - Bought 2 tins of each. the first tin of Commonwealth has some decent latakia and had a nice aroma and decent taste - though too light for me. The tin i opened last night smelled of menthol or eucalyptus and this A.M> tasted it too. rather disgusting. so - for those of you who know this blend or Gawith in general - what is it - the first or the 2nd? also do they have consistency problems? To me - this definitely was a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of thing.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:10 am

I would have thought they sorted out any problems by now. I have to watch those tins of Bracken Flake for chopped up pieces of twine. That was also a problem in 1792 Flake for a time.

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:44 am

Ok thanks - well lucky i am a gaslight junkie so no more of that stuff for me. it was rather disgusting and hope i did not taint my pipe too badly - 1 bowl only but a good Celius root.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:26 am

Speaking of the consistency, I run into this a lot w SG blends. Sometimes it makes my toes tingle it's so good and other times just OK... thankfully more good than bad.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:08 am

thanks Nate!
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:12 pm

Can't say I've noticed any inconsistency in Sammy G's blends. At the least in the few that I smoke regularly- FVF, BBF, SJF.

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:45 pm

The only inconsistency that I can report, is that from time to time I will get a run of tins with either nice thinly cut flakes or flakes that are quite thick. This does create an inconsistency in flavor, as the thicker flakes tend to burn slower and cooler but they do require more relights. The thinner flakes are a bit easier to work with and are quicker to dry and easier to fold and stuff.

I had a tin of Kendal Cream flake that had a mixture of thin and thick flakes. The thin flakes were loosely pressed and the thick were firmly pressed and as tough as raw hide. Needless to say, it was an interesting experience smoking through that 50 grams of tobacco as each bowl tasted somewhat different than the last.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:37 pm

Most SG blends are so wet (I primarily smoke FVF, SJF, and BBF) that I want to dry them at least 15 mins, but sometimes that's not enough, or I get caught up w something and I dry it too much... I believe that's where my inconsistency comes in, my own ability to nail that perfect moisture level.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:36 pm

Thick and thin flakes I've had before as well, although mostly thicker in my experience. In general, I like my SG blends to be very dry, more so than most other blends. But consistency haven't been a problem for me.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:42 pm

Old Nate wrote:
Most SG blends are so wet (I primarily smoke FVF, SJF, and BBF) that I want to dry them at least 15 mins, but sometimes that's not enough, or I get caught up w something and I dry it too much... I believe that's where my inconsistency comes in, my own ability to nail that perfect moisture level.

This pretty much for me as well. It would be great if they didn't send them out this way, but I can deal with it.

Interestingly, their Lat blends like SL don't seem to posses this trait to the same degree!

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:19 pm

SG Navy Flake for me tonight and it's consistently excellent. I don't know why I don't smoke more of this.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:02 am

Two thoughts...

1. They might have two slicing machines, one set slightly more wide.
2. Dave does the slicing on Mondays and sets it a bit more narrow.

And...

3. Maybe with the merger of Samuel Gawith and Gawith, Hogarth etc. there are some inconsistencies in slicing, etc.

Also, I agree that dryness level would result in differences in how the flakes perform with resulting differences in burn rate & taste.

Also...

Different pipes.

Different relative humidity levels in smoking environment.

Different ambient temperature levels.

Different beverages sipped alongside.

Etc., Etc., Etc.

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:22 am

I agree - but i had one tin nice and pure taste lat and VA's and the next menthol... That WAS weird.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:25 am

Sometimes they 'rest' a batch of A next to a batch of B and there are crossover flavor issues. They do some stuff with menthol...who knows.

Agreed though. That's a weird one.

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:41 am

I've found that Sammy G's blends to be very consistent. They are always too moist for my likes. However that doesn't keep me from smoking them. I just dry then out to my preference and have a go. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:43 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
Sometimes they 'rest' a batch of A next to a batch of B and there are crossover flavor issues. They do some stuff with menthol...who knows.

Agreed though. That's a weird one.


Out of curiosity, what do they do that includes Menthol?

Unless the answer is that the snuff mills share space with the pipe tobaccos, in which case that makes perfect sense.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:54 pm

They have some rope or twist that is menthol.

https://mrsnuff.com/gawith-hoggarth-sweet-menthol-mint-p-3232.html

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:31 pm

Wow...who knew?
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:33 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
They have some rope or twist that is menthol.

https://mrsnuff.com/gawith-hoggarth-sweet-menthol-mint-p-3232.html

You know I used to enjoy smoking menthol cigarettes. I wonder... scratch

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:13 pm

idbowman wrote:
...Out of curiosity, what do they do that includes Menthol?

Unless the answer is that the snuff mills share space with the pipe tobaccos, in which case that makes perfect sense.

I could be delusional, but I seem to remember an article in Pipes & Tobacco magazine a few years ago that suggested (or stated right out) that they mix snuff with their tobacco sometimes, just to jack up the nicotine. And when you think about it, why not?
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:43 pm

Not that I know much about snuff, but it's tobacco in any case, isn't it?
Or am I missing something?
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:55 pm

Snuff is very very very finely ground tobacco plus other aromatic ingredients to give it some unique scent. The consistency ranges between the fineness of dust and perhaps as coarse as sand. It is taken up into one's nasal cavity a very short distance. Some are quite strong re N. Others are less so.

The differences between Snuff and the tobaccos we're talking about here, if that's what you're kind of asking, are vast. Or am I totally misunderstanding your comment...I do that on occasion.

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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:02 pm

Maybe I should have stated it better: Why mix snuff with (pipe) tobacco to jack up the nicotine? Shouldn't you have a fairly good idea of nicotine levels from what type of tobacco you start off with, when making snuff?
Being clueless about snuff, I find this very interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:52 am

I take my prior hallucination back, having just looked up the article in P & T. I was conflating it with something I had read in The Pipe Smoker's Ephemeris, in which hobbyists were attempting to supercharge their tabak with snuff on their own. That doesn't count. My bad, and abject apologies to SG.

(For what it's worth, P & T has a neat index on their site, making looking up stuff like this easy. I have all issues on hand, along with much of TPSE, which is a nightmare to find anything in.)

http://www.pipesandtobaccosmagazine.com/ptindex.htm
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PostSubject: Re: consistency of Sam gawith    Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:39 pm

That's a pretty neat link, thanks!
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