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PostSubject: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:36 pm

We sat down as a family yesterday and watched the 1973 film Tom Sawyer starring, amongst others, a very young Jodie Foster. I was interested to see Huck carve a bowl for a pipe whilst marooned on an island on the Mississippi and later smoke what appeared to be a MM Country Gent with 'twig' for a stem and bit. It made me smile that back then it was deemed ok to feature films where children smoked pipes! I don't have any snags with that now but it did catch my eye.

It got me thinking though, how were the twigs / sticks drilled to accept a draught hole or was this a sprinkling of fantasy? I've made whistles out of elder as it's possible to remove the pithy centre but these whistles are a lot thicker than the requirements for a stem.

Great film though, the children loved it, and daddy was happy at the glimpse of a pipe or two Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:10 pm

Hmmm, not seen the '73 release of that film mate. I'll have to check it out.

I remember seeing the old B&W flick as a wee lad. Think it might've been shot in the 1940's or summat. It's available on the tube and I need to re-watch it. Always remember Sid and his whining to aunt Polly, who would bop him on the head with her thimble! Laughing


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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:36 pm

Yeah the old Disney and Looney Tunes stuff has a bunch of tobacco references too. Good stuff, the cartoons they make these days aren't fit to watch.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:37 am

You know you've traveled a long way down the road when you watch a movie and your takeaway is the pipes:D.  I do the same thing, unless Amy Adams is in the scene. Good question, though. As I recall, the history on the MM site focuses mainly on the bowl, not so much the stem. Wonder what the Indians used for stems. Hmmm.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:44 pm

KevinM wrote:
Wonder what the Indians used for stems. Hmmm.

Wiz, what say you old chap?
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:34 pm

If my memory serves me correctly I believe reeds were used for stems in a lot of corn cob pipes. Some of the older boys that I grew up with would make pipes from corncobs and then cut reeds at the joints and punch through the joint with a nail. They worked very well as I recall. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:07 pm

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If my memory serves me correctly I believe reeds were used for stems in a lot of corn cob pipes. Some of the older boys that I grew up with would make pipes from corncobs and then cut reeds at the joints and punch through the joint with a nail. They worked very well as I recall. Smile

AJ

That makes a lot of sense AJ as this would require no drilling. Although a work of fiction it would also fit with the film too that was set on the banks of the Mississippi where reeds would be in abundance.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:25 pm

Stick wrote:
ajn27511 wrote:
If my memory serves me correctly I believe reeds were used for stems in a lot of corn cob pipes. Some of the older boys that I grew up with would make pipes from corncobs and then cut reeds at the joints and punch through the joint with a nail. They worked very well as I recall. Smile

AJ

That makes a lot of sense AJ as this would require no drilling.  Although a work of fiction it would also fit with the film too that was set on the banks of the Mississippi where reeds would be in abundance.

I'm pretty sure a very strong argument can be made for that. Reeds in abundance, no special tools needed, and no special skills. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:20 pm

Reeds certainly make sense. I belatedly checked Smoking Pipes > Old Dominion. This cob pipe brand seems to be the modern version of the cobs used by Virginia planters back in the day. The descriptive text for their cobs refers to bamboo reed stems. Far as I can see, the Old Dominion brand produces only one style and size, going for historic authenticity rather than variety. They also manufacture clay pipes.  I've read that MM uses birch for its stems, and their product development / marketing has been ingenious.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:47 pm

KevinM wrote:
Reeds certainly make sense. I belatedly checked Smoking Pipes > Old Dominion. This cob pipe brand seems to be the modern version of the cobs used by Virginia planters back in the day. The descriptive text for their cobs refers to bamboo reed stems. Far as I can see, the Old Dominion brand produces only one style and size, going for historic authenticity rather than variety. They also manufacture clay pipes.  I've read that MM uses birch for its stems, and their product development / marketing has been ingenious.

That's some interesting and needed information. I thank you for posting it. Also I didn't know another company made cob pipes here in the States. I wrongly assumed that if it wasn't a MM made here then it was most likely made in China. Glad to find out that MM has some competition. I don't have anything but good words for MM but every company needs a bit of competition. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:01 pm

I have read that the natives would seal a borer grub in a branch of appropriate size and hang it with the grub at the bottom. the borer would emerge at the top and hollow out the "stem". I have an apple stem that was from my apple tree.

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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:26 pm

loneredtree wrote:
I have read that the natives would seal a borer grub in a branch of appropriate size and hang it with the grub at the bottom. the borer would emerge at the top and hollow out the "stem". I have an apple stem that was from my apple tree.

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That's an intriguing method. Which natives were you speaking of? Also I wonder how long it took the grub to eat its way through the stem? Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:15 am

Reeds were good where you could get them. I've seen heated rods pushed through the sapwood of small branches. I tried it once. It was a lot of work... Small bones work well. Chicken leg bones, as with most bird bones, are hollow, and they make fine stems.....
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:29 am

Ozark Wizard wrote:
Reeds were good where you could get them. I've seen heated rods pushed through the sapwood of small branches. I tried it once. It was a lot of work... Small bones work well. Chicken leg bones, as with most bird bones, are hollow, and they make fine stems.....

I don't believe I would like my tobacco flavored with the Colonel's 11 herbs and spices. 5)

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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:21 am

ajn27511 wrote:
Ozark Wizard wrote:
Reeds were good where you could get them. I've seen heated rods pushed through the sapwood of small branches. I tried it once. It was a lot of work... Small bones work well. Chicken leg bones, as with most bird bones, are hollow, and they make fine stems.....

I don't believe I would like my tobacco flavored with the Colonel's 11 herbs and spices. 5)

AJ

Better tasting than road kill bones, and the extra crispy stems are out of this world!(smirk)
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:51 pm

loneredtree wrote:
I have read that the natives would seal a borer grub in a branch of appropriate size and hang it with the grub at the bottom. the borer would emerge at the top and hollow out the "stem". I have an apple stem that was from my apple tree.

Cool

Man's inhumanity to insect! Borer grubs of the world unite!  Seriously, Mencken (Henry Louis Mencken, 1880-1956, professional gadfly) preferred cherry stems on his cobs. Wonder how one could acquire or make one of those? Aren't they kind of gnarly or twisty? Apple might be cool, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:48 pm

Never used a twig but did use reed stems. Already hollow, plentiful and easy find one of the required diameter. Still use reed stems in one of my clays.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:55 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
loneredtree wrote:
I have read that the natives would seal a borer grub in a branch of appropriate size and hang it with the grub at the bottom. the borer would emerge at the top and hollow out the "stem". I have an apple stem that was from my apple tree.

Cool

Man's inhumanity to insect! Borer grubs of the world unite!  Seriously, Mencken (Henry Louis Mencken, 1880-1956, professional gadfly) preferred cherry stems on his cobs. Wonder how one could acquire or make one of those? Aren't they kind of gnarly or twisty? Apple might be cool, though.

As kids, we used any kind of wood. To "drill" the hole, we used to heat a piece of wire and push it through carefully. We used ordinary corn cobs as bowls. These did not last long and, in fact, we used our home made stems over and over again.

Where there's a will (to smoke), there's a way (to make stem) lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:43 pm

SpeedyPete wrote:
Richard Burley wrote:
loneredtree wrote:
I have read that the natives would seal a borer grub in a branch of appropriate size and hang it with the grub at the bottom. the borer would emerge at the top and hollow out the "stem". I have an apple stem that was from my apple tree.

Cool

Man's inhumanity to insect! Borer grubs of the world unite!  Seriously, Mencken (Henry Louis Mencken, 1880-1956, professional gadfly) preferred cherry stems on his cobs. Wonder how one could acquire or make one of those? Aren't they kind of gnarly or twisty? Apple might be cool, though.

As kids, we used any kind of wood.  To "drill" the hole, we used to heat a piece of wire and push it through carefully.  We used ordinary corn cobs as bowls. These did not last long and, in fact, we used our home made stems over and over again.

Where there's a will (to smoke), there's a way (to make stem) lol!

Very interesting SP.

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PostSubject: Re: Tom Sawyer and a cob   Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:52 pm





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