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PostSubject: Snuff making   Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:22 am

Ok so I've been bitten. I enjoyed the smell of HH ODF so much that I mixed up a small test batch to ferment with a pinch of washing soda, salt and a bit of water. It's cooking away and I'll let it go for a couple of weeks I think. I also mixed up a batch of medicated snuff from some very old CBW, Cherry Cavendish, salt, oil of bergamot, eucalyptus oil and almond oil. Holy interesting something there and boy does the scent linger! I mean I'm over a half hour out from a test pinch and I'm not detecting any loss of aroma yet.

I do believe I'm a lost cause brothers.
Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:54 am

Very interesting Jim. I had never thought of making my own snuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:23 am

John, I was amazed at how simple it can be. It can also take aturn towards an engineering degree if you choose, lol. The whole fermentation thing hasn't anything to do with fermentation at all. It's about adjusting the ph to freebase the nicotine levels. If you have any questions I'd be happy to share the stuff I've learned. Admittedly it's not much but wow what a world it opens up.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:58 pm

Toasted a spoonful of the ODF snuff. Wow! It's so barnyard it's amazing. Nice nic content and what smokey tobacco goodness. I can definitely see doing a large batch of this for real everyday use.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:38 pm

Put the finishing touches on about 50 ml of medicated snuff. It's got oil of bergamot, eucalyptus oil and a healthy dose of menthol crystals in it. When you snuff this one your lips get cold and numb lol.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:47 pm

Sounds like you are on a roll HP! Maybe a calling? cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:37 pm

I think desperate measures might be closer to the truth. What with the hole in my mouth open again I can't get enough draw to get a pipe lit much less smoke it right now. Hopefully the snuff will hold me over till I can smoke again. I gotta admit though making snuff is kinda fun.
Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:58 pm

I was greatly honored when HPuff asked me to be a test pilot for his recent Snuff items. Thanks HPuff!

I tried ODF tonight after receiving a batch of six items in today's mail.

Basically...this is extremely good stuff....er, Snuff! A very small pinch yielded a lovely slightly smokey barnyard-ish effect. Yes, easy to tell the parent is ODF. It reminds me of some of the Gawith snuffs. But it is obvious that it is a varient of ODF. Long lasting aroma. Very impressive. For a first effort this is truly amazing. It stands on a par or above any commercial Snuff with which I'm familiar.

cheers cheers cheers

So there.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:34 pm

Ok I think I'm blushing. I am very glad you enjoyed it though. My relative lack of experience with snuff leaves me unsure of the items I've turned out. I think they are rather nice but unbiased opinions are what I was looking for. I can't wait to hear what you think of the others.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:30 am

OMG! G&H TWIST!!!


Those of you that know me and my taste in blends know that I love Gawith twists, ropes, etc. that are based on the strong brown stuff. Well I just had an example of near absolute tobacco nirvana...HPuff's mind blowing Snuff... G&H Twist. This, for me, was even better than the ODF. Surprised that it is so mellow in character. The aroma is a big fat slice of tobacco heaven.

What I like most is that this (and the ODF) are totally straight tobacco-esque in profile. No flowers, no spices, no olde timey homage to some soapy sappy stuff. It's TOBACCO. An homage to its parent blend! Brilliant!

I need more of THIS stuff...LOTS more. How !much is it? Where can I get it? PLEASE!

It hits me in all my little "I love tobacco" places. Easy to sniff (off the back of my hand). Lovely "vial aroma". For me, an ideal grind and moisture level. I'm really clumsy re Snuff style, etc. and this (and the ODF) is very easy to work with. And while I honestly think this is one of the most appealing snuffs I've ever encountered (and I've likely tried over a hundred) I'm starting to think outside my usual box. What would Gawith Sweet Maple Twist be like. Or Sweet Rum. Or Brown Bogie. Or HEY...maybe there actually IS a bona fide use for Sweet Cherry Twist. This is just very, very exciting.

Hold on, I need another hit. See ya later.

Jim...wow...really!
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:02 am

What kind of a grinder do you use?
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:04 am

I started off with a blender but switched to a coffee bean grinder.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:50 am

You know, I've been thinking about taking some pipe blends through a grinder a few times and turning them into snuff.

I'll bet those GH flavored ropes would be awfully nice. BH, if you take them for a test drive, let me know how they go.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:10 am

Oh cool...it's...


HUFFELSNUFF
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:35 pm

Go for it Ian, you might just find a winner. I know I've found a couple that I don't ever want to be without


LMAO BH!

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:33 pm

OK Huffelsnuff, you got me going. Bought a new blade grinder to dedicate to snuff grinding. My first test grind will likely be Dark Flake Scented.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:50 pm

Don't forget if you want to boost the nic content you'll need washing soda or sodium carbonate to "ferment" the tobacco. Also remember to add a small quantity of uniodized salt to improve the flavor.

Jim


PS sodium carbonate is easily made from sodium bicarbonate by putting a layer on a cookie sheet and baking at 400f for about an hour to give full conversion.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:26 pm

Yeah. Found a simple process for turning baking soda into the carbonate ... Oven set to 200 F for one hour. So you do 400 F, eh?

I guess it's just that simple. I also ordered a small mount of menthol crystals.

On the link I posted, from Juxtaposed:

Here is a basic recipe that can be used for making snuff.

ground and sieved tobacco flour                     1/4 cup
distilled water                                                  2 teaspoons                      
sodium carbonate (washing soda)                  1/8 teaspoon
table salt                                                          1/2 teaspoon    

Do you seive or screen your flour? What do you use?
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:51 pm

I just run it through an old wire mesh tea strainer. So a spoonful at a time lol. I'm sure you probably have a larger version or can get one readily I'm just too lazy to look. But an old window screen would work too. Also the WalMart here actually carries washing soda so I haven't had to convert bicarbonate since the first trial or two.  Yeah 2 oz of menthol crystals will last me a really really long time.


Oh I also screen it after its ground and then again after the fermentation, while its still a bit damp. Which is why the ODF looks like gun powder granuals. The Briggs got the same treatment but then got run through the grinder again when I mixed in the unfermented stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:58 pm

I love the Coconut Mocha Menthol. I think even more menthol in it would have been fine.

But then I've been on a Gawith Apricot jag...so I'm used to a stronger hit.
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:14 pm

Ah that's one I haven't tried yet. I'm kinda running blind on so much of this as I've only sampled a few varieties so far. I know I keep refilling a 10 gram tin for my personal use and add menthol to taste in that. So mines got quite the hit going, numb lips and all lol. But definitely good to know where it stands in relation to other stuff. Makes it easier for me to judge what I'm doing, thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:05 pm

So where do you get your little glass bottles?

What size are they?
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PostSubject: Re: Snuff making   Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:37 pm

Those I stumbled across on Amazon when I was looking for mortars and pestles. Not really sure how to give you any better info on finding them so here's a pic.

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