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PostSubject: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:24 am

How come this Brit can see what so many Americans can't see?



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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:58 am

AMEN to that!
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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:43 pm

How come this Brit can see what so many Americans can't see?

If you teach certain things in our universities for decades, you have to expect certain results. It's a wonder we haven't gone full socialist by now. Obviously Mr. Condell has done some independent thinking--the only kind there is. The average Americano is now an ignoramus and an evader, to boot. Defiantly so. We reap the whirlwind.

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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:20 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
...If you teach certain things in our universities for decades, you have to expect certain results... The average Americano is now an ignoramus and an evader, to boot. Defiantly so. We reap the whirlwind.


Rick: It's true. My kids come back from their college courses with horrifying reports of teachers who choose textbooks that promote versions of history that bear no resemblance to the truth. Either these teachers are idiots who don't know the truth themselves, or they're deliberately pushing an agenda...or both. Either way, most of the students lap it up.

They're not taught critical thinking, or the scientific method. One of my kids came back and reported that one teacher gave the class a "research project" with the instruction, "First you form a conclusion and then you look for facts to support it." It was a required course. 5)

We have moral relativists and agenda-driven manipulators with no respect for truth or reason programming successive generations to accept "authority" without question. All "authority" must pass the test of rational & moral principles; it it can't, it doesn't deserve to have any authority at all. But if one never learns such principles in the first place, there can be no discernment.

We are already reaping the whirlwind.

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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:55 pm

I caught this on the BBC's World Service.  An interesting listen, especially the comments at the end that discusses what's been said on the BoB, that of are these pair of belters the best the US has got?, which then leads to the obvious question of what kind of system allows this to happen?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/programmes/a-z/by/debate%20dissected/player
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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:09 pm

It is easier to see the whole picture when you are not part of the pigment and canvas.

Carefully groomed to believe in the entitlement system, that to breath is to be deserving, the general public will quietly go to slaughter. History is written by the victors. If the history is being rewritten, then the battle is over.
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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:46 pm

Why does he see what so many Americans can't see?

Because he's above average in intelligence AND observant AND and has sufficient life experience to see things synthetically (i.e. in a "big picture" way).

Which implies, of course, that many Americans are of average intelligence or below OR unobservant OR unable to understand how the small events they do see fit both together and into the whole.

Nothing new, there.  That describes the vast majority of the world's human population, always has, and always will.  That's "normal."

How the USA managed to succeed in spite of that for 240 years is the more interesting question.  

The answer?  There was a convergence of unusual circumstances and remarkable people those 240 years ago that resulted in the creation of a document which outlined a type of government designed to protect people from their own normalcy. It prescribed clever mechanisms which took into account the failings and animal aspects of Man's nature (the ones that inevitably lead to tyranny), largely blocked their effect, and largely inoculated the new nation against them going forward.

The sticky bit is that word "largely".  Meaning not completely.  And like all inoculations, it weakens over time and a booster shot is required.  One of the original writers of the government blueprint phrased it this way:

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural [fertilizer].”

And here we are.

The Brit guy in the video is exactly right.  The upcoming vote is only incidentally a Presidential election.  What is ACTUALLY being decided is whether or not to (effectively) declare the U.S. Constitution irrelevant and obsolete and re-fashion America along communal, European lines; or stay independent.
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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:09 pm

Ozark Wizard wrote:
...the battle is over.  


What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is...



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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:43 pm

Vito wrote:
Ozark Wizard wrote:
...the battle is over.  


What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is...




Nice, very nice! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:51 pm

All I'm saying is if you get caught unarmed and hungry it's your own fault. Man ought not get run over by the bus he saw coming two blocks away.
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PostSubject: Re: Head screwed on straight   Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:08 pm

LL: My take on how the U.S. has managed to create the most productive and prosperous civilization in history is similar to yours, but I would augment it with the following perspective. All productivity and prosperity in every civilization is inversely proportional to the amount of coercion the citizenry has to endure. Ditto the longevity of any civilization. Regardless of whether the coercion is individualized* or centralized and systemic **, productivity and prosperity always decrease as coercion increases.
    *"Individualized" means one-on-one, as in black inner cities, where the black-on-black murder rate dwarfs the entire cop-on-black murder rate that the Black Lives Matter More Than Any Other Lives™ rabble rousers love to squawk and jabber about. (Example: In 2012, ~200 blacks were killed by cops, most of them justified; whereas ~6,000 blacks were killed by other blacks.) Productivity and prosperity are correspondingly depressed in those areas.

    **"Centralized and systemic" means that the coercion emanates from a primary source. In our case, the source is the state, principally via fraud, backed up by the threat of coercive force against those who don't toe the line. Witness the suffocating effects of taxation, regulation, and Sovietizing programs like Obama(doesn't)Care, all of which have debilitated the U.S. economy and sent all the manufacturing jobs abroad.
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The "document" you're referring to (the U.S. Constitution) definitely slowed down the advance of state coercion—the centralized, systemic kind. It did so in two ways:
  1. The Bill of Rights directly limited some of the worst ways in which the state can coerce the citizenry, based on the direct experience of the colonists under the British Crown.
  2. At the start, all the U.S. state's power was in Congress, which had the sole responsibility and authority to make law. There were no Executive Orders (which are flatly unconstitutional) and no judicial activism. The Founders knew that one of the least efficient ways of getting anything done is by committee, so in a stroke of genius, they created the Congress as two committees—the Senate and the House of Representatives. On purpose. And while the politicians in the two committees were busy with their little turf wars, squabbling about how to establish the rules of coercion in the face of that damned pesky Constitution, the citizens got busy and used that freedom to interact with minimal interference under a free enterprise system that created unprecedented growth and prosperity. It has taken the state ~240 years to create the current tangled web of centralized, systemic coercion that has enabled a wild card like Mr. Trump and an utterly corrupt fraud like "Mrs." Clinton to square off in the current pissing contest.
Meanwhile, there has been an ideological battle going on between freedom and statism, free enterprise and socialism, individualism and collectivism. The collectivists have managed to demonize free enterprise, and the socialists' promise of cradle to grave security has proven to be an irresistible lure to the broad masses who increasingly believe the myth that the state can keep them "safe" from risk...as though such a thing were even thermodynamically possible.

But the reality is that we're in a trap that was accurately foreseen by whomever said (some attribute it to Benjamin Franklin), "Those who trade liberty for security will get neither."

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