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Fight'n Hampsters

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PostSubject: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:45 am

Anyone know for sure if these two have been in production continuously since before 2007? There are reviews going back before then but not sure if it had gone out of production and then came back after 07.

If this is the case then it will go away soon and I need to stock up. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:12 am

These have been around forever, as you probably know. Your operative word, I take it, is "continuously." So if there's a hiatus in production, some brands could get the shaft? Ain't America, land of the free, great? Free to do what? Obey?
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:46 pm

About two weeks ago I opened a tin of Hal O The Wynd that's just over 40 years old. It's the original from Scotland and 4 oz at that. So, if Rattray will be around so will this fine blend. Rattray's blends are still in great demand, especially throughout Europe. The question should be: will Rattray be willing to follow the FDA's demands???



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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:28 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
These have been around forever, as you probably know. Your operative word, I take it, is "continuously." So if there's a hiatus in production, some brands could get the shaft? Ain't America, land of the free, great? Free to do what? Obey?

Continuous is key for FDA regs in my understanding. For example, War Horse hit the market again last year. It would be axed by the Feds even though it was originally produced in the 60's and even if the manufacturer used the exact same recipe. As far as I know the only blends exempted are those that were in actual production as of Feb 2007.

This also would effect Dunhill tobaccos since they left the US market for a while, have been in and out of production, then came back in, what, 2010? But I guess with Dunhill availability with be an issue world wide since BAT is discontinuing them.
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:30 pm

Lonecoyote wrote:
About two weeks ago I opened a tin of Hal O The Wynd that's just over 40 years old. It's the original from Scotland and 4 oz at that. So, if Rattray will be around so will this fine blend. Rattray's blends are still in great demand, especially throughout Europe. The question should be: will Rattray be willing to follow the FDA's demands???



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My concern is this: Was it in production and available here in the US as of Feb 2007? My guess is that if there was a British blend that was in production continuously but NOT available here on Feb of 2007 then it might not be grandfathered in.
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:44 pm

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My concern is this: Was it in production and available here in the US as of Feb 2007? My guess is that if there was a British blend that was in production continuously but NOT available here on Feb of 2007 then it might not be grandfathered in.

Rattray's has been made and shipped from Germany way before 2007, but will Rattray want too also deal with our FDA? That's my main concern. It's all about profit and loss....and our FDA would be a costly one.



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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:05 pm

I never count my chickens before they hatch.............specially when it comes to the government and what they say they're gona do. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:38 pm

Lonecoyote wrote:
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My concern is this: Was it in production and available here in the US as of Feb 2007? My guess is that if there was a British blend that was in production continuously but NOT available here on Feb of 2007 then it might not be grandfathered in.

Rattray's has been made and shipped from Germany way before 2007, but will Rattray want too also deal with our FDA? That's my main concern. It's all about profit and loss....and our FDA would be a costly one.



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I hear you. Hopefully since they were coming here during 07 they will have to do nothing
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:26 pm

OG and HoW will be fine, as will many of the "XYZ Mixtures." They've been around for a long, long time and will be grandfathered in on the new regs. There have been periods where they were hard to get and in low supply, but I'm 99% certain they were never discontinued and then subsequently reissued.

Still...if you love it and you have the means, it's never a bad idea to stock up anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:41 pm

idbowman wrote:
Still...if you love it and you have the means, it's never a bad idea to stock up anyway.

Yes, this!


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RR
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:18 am

Brewdude wrote:
idbowman wrote:
Still...if you love it and you have the means, it's never a bad idea to stock up anyway.

Yes, this!


Cheers,

RR

No Joke!

I have put every penny into blends I know will be gone (Mostly GLP). I would love to think that for all the others that don't have an extinction date I can just buy a tin or two here or there because they will always be around. But y'all are right. You can't take it for granted. Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:57 am

Lonecoyote wrote:
About two weeks ago I opened a tin of Hal O The Wynd that's just over 40 years old. It's the original from Scotland and 4 oz at that. So, if Rattray will be around so will this fine blend. Rattray's blends are still in great demand, especially throughout Europe. The question should be: will Rattray be willing to follow the FDA's demands???



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LC,

How was that 40 year old tin of Hal O the Wynd??? You threw that out there and left us hanging... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:55 am

Old Nate

It smokes outstanding, the dark fruit notes are more prevalent and absolutely no harshness. Smokes fairly slow with very little moisture left on the bottom of the bowl. Age made a BIG difference with this fine blend.



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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:33 am

I figured. Fresh, Hal is okay. But I have a 3year old batch I smoke oncenin a while and it's def an improvement!
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PostSubject: Re: HalO the Wind and Old Gowrie FDA dates   Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:50 am

Old Nate
Your there!!! This Rattray's fine blend needs from 3 to 5 years of aging to truly enjoy. You'll see what I mean in just two more years.... it's worth the wait.... cheers cheers



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