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Ozark Wizard

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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:46 pm

Fight'n Hampsters wrote:
It really is great having so many people here who are generous enough to take the time to let us know what they are smoking and what their impressions of them are.  I would be lost and have many more misses than hits if I had to just buy tins that "looked good" without any point of reference. Very Happy

Here, here!
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:48 pm

Major hurdle overcome. The use of a stiff rolled paper 'tip' will be mandatory from now on. Just rolled my first 100mm and used a pre rolled tip. Huge improvement in ease, durability, duration, etc.

This one was with some of today's shipment of Stokkebye "shribbon" cut blends (half way betwixt ribbon and shag). I tried out the Turkish Export #84 which is very highly touted by all and sundry. It handled in a totally excellent manner. I managed to puff up the heat a bit (I have skills), but overall it was fine.

So, yes to the 100mm...yes to the tips...yes to Stokkebye.

And a note: the D&R is much more coarse cut than the Stokkebye and the PS #84 burned the best and most evenly thus far...BUT...the D&R Ramback (100% Oriental/Turkish) has WAY more to offer in the flavor department I'm thinkin'. IMHO. More testing is needed.  WooHoooo!

Second note: MANY of the reviews I covered today of the Stokkebye Turkish, Norwegian and Danish ribbons were done as a RYO/MYO review. Very frequently the reviewer would mention that the blends just didn't have a profile that did well in a pipe, but when rolled they sang a sweet song. Very different physics.

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Zeno Marx

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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:30 am

where can you still buy Stokkebye shag in the USA?
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:07 pm

Who knows? I'm callin' what I got "shribbon" as it seems finer than the current D&R ribbon but more coarse than shags like Gawith puts out. I got it from P&C I think.
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:34 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
Who knows? I'm callin' what I got "shribbon" as it seems finer than the current D&R ribbon but more coarse than shags like Gawith puts out. I got it from P&C I think.
Cool. Thanks. I wonder if it is still available wholesale to shops etc. I'm not much of a cigarette smoker. 50g of shag could last me three months. I miss the old days when you could get sweet, pure Turkish shag. When I worked in a pipe shop, we also carried a couple dozen import cigarettes and RYO pouches. There were some FANTASTIC Turkish cigarettes. Balkan Sobranie made an incredible no filter Turkish oval. Turkish Special made a couple different blends that were quite good. I'd like to think they're still sold in Europe and Canada. And of course, we aren't talking the chemical garbage sold under Camel for decades. We're talking fine, unadulterated leaf. The closest I've had since the heydays was Stokkebye Turkish shag.
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:35 pm

Interesting. Times gone by.

Speaking of which...the Picayune smokes arrived via UPS this afternoon. I'm predicting great things with these...the pack and pre light aroma is FANTASTIC! They are king size with what's called (I assume) a red filter. Filters on these things are red, gold and silver...essentially strong, medium and mild...refers to how much "flavor" they let through. Anyway, they are a medium brown in color...filter and tube. The fill level makes the tube very firm...these are not loose by any stretch. They come in a nice flip top box.

Oh boy, oh boy. I can hardly wait. Tomorrow will be a test day, I'm thinkin'.

Gonna get psyched. These have a broad reputation for strength that is akin to a fat bowl of Dark Plug.

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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:09 pm

If one is looking for a decent shag cut, and Turkish leaf, may I suggest:

https://www.leafonly.com/cigarette-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-leaves/izmir-turkish-oriental-tobacco

https://www.leafonly.com/cigarette-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-leaves/semi-oriental-456

https://www.leafonly.com/cigarette-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-leaves/oriental-turkish-tobacco-leaf-yenidje

Using this to process the leaf into 0.8 mm wide strips...

https://www.leafonly.com/cigarette-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-shredders/tabletop-fine-cut-shredder

Took me about a year to go through a pound of Yenidji, but I use it primarily as a condiment to blends.
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:43 pm

So the shredder makes a .8mm ribbon. Is that a shag, or a ribbon cut?
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:18 am

Most 'ribbon' cuts are 1/16" wide. As I understand it, .8mm is 1/32" wide. My opinion is at it would be considered 'shag' cut. Pretty thin, great for 'rollies'.
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:24 am

Great info. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:06 am

Up this morning with Watson, out on the deck in the grey light of dawn in PJ's with a blanket over my shoulders, a cup o' joe and a Picayune small cigar burning merrily. Watson is nosing around the tree line, checking for evil doers.

Yeah baby! Great morning. So...as to the Picayune:

Review of factory rolled "small cigar": I ordered a carton of the "small cigars" and could not be more pleased. Size is that of a king size filter cigarette. An ideal item for breaks or dog walking, etc. They are slim-ish and a medium brown color...so they look like a custom cigarette. The flavor is excellent. It is a melange that tastes like VA/Burley/Turkish/Perique (gee!...what a surprise). Lighter than the deep flavor in a bowl, but very pleasant. And without inhaling there is a nice little N afterglow. No complaints here. Totally satisfying.


Watson? Oh, he only smokes the big ones.

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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:45 pm

Peter Stokkebye Norwegian Blend #80.

Reviewed as a RYO: I'm quite surprised that I like this better than the universally beloved Turkish #84. I'm using a 100mm single roll thing with premade tips made by RAW. The result is spectacular. Very nice base notes with Turkish on top, present all the way from start to finish. I think it is the base notes from the Burley that I like so much. The Turkish #84 is brighter. Helga, my mother of Norwegian descent would NOT have approved. But I do.


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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Mon May 01, 2017 5:37 pm

I don't believe .8mm is shag. It's that tiny ribbon like some of the cheaper RYO we find in the USA. Those cutters have me very tempted at messing with this, but feeling it isn't true shag is holding me back just enough. Thank goodness. I cannot afford another interest.
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Mon May 01, 2017 5:47 pm

Fixed resources...expanding interests. Ouch.
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PostSubject: Re: D&R blends for RYO   Mon May 01, 2017 7:57 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
Fixed resources...expanding interests. Ouch.
It's bad for the materialist and consumer in me, but it is also great for the minimalist in me. I'm very much content with my restraints.
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