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JimInks

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PostSubject: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:43 pm

Smoking Pipes has said Mike McNeil told them that 5100 has been discontinued. One of the components is no longer available. RIP.
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:27 am

Steve Fallon, aka Pipestud, alluded to this situation on his website. Does make me wonder just what this one "component" might be! FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:33 am

ftrplt wrote:
Steve Fallon, aka Pipestud, alluded to this situation on his website. Does make me wonder just what this one "component" might be! FTRPLT

Jimmy Hoffa.
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:38 am

Here's the post I made about this on Dec, 12, 2017 :    
"Was going to order another pound of one of my fave Red Va's, McC's 5100 Red Cake and found out from Smoking Pipes that it is no more !! Seems this years crop of Carolina Red Va's was not up to their standards so it will not be blended. No word when it will be back !! I like it both fresh and cellar'd so wil have to break out one of my cellar'd pounds for this next year !! Sad day in Dodge ! " Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:41 am

ftrplt wrote:
Steve Fallon, aka Pipestud, alluded to this situation on his website. Does make me wonder just what this one "component" might be! FTRPLT

Where on his site ?
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:16 am

weedsnager wrote:
ftrplt wrote:
Steve Fallon, aka Pipestud, alluded to this situation on his website. Does make me wonder just what this one "component" might be! FTRPLT

Where on his site ?

It was in the copy for the 5 lb bag of 5100 he had for sale.


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RR

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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:38 am

Brewdude wrote:
weedsnager wrote:
ftrplt wrote:
Steve Fallon, aka Pipestud, alluded to this situation on his website. Does make me wonder just what this one "component" might be! FTRPLT

Where on his site ?

It was in the copy for the 5 lb bag of 5100 he had for sale.


Cheers,

RR

What was the price ?
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:24 pm

Steve has deleted it off his site, but IIRC it was $175. I could be wrong!!!! cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:43 pm

ftrplt wrote:
Steve has deleted it off his site, but IIRC it was $175. I could be wrong!!!! cheers FTRPLT

$175 for 5 pounds ?
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:31 pm

weedsnager wrote:
ftrplt wrote:
Steve has deleted it off his site, but IIRC it was $175. I could be wrong!!!! cheers FTRPLT

$175 for 5 pounds ?

Yes that is correct. $175 for 5 lbs.


Cheers,

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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:56 pm

Brewdude wrote:
weedsnager wrote:
ftrplt wrote:
Steve has deleted it off his site, but IIRC it was $175. I could be wrong!!!! cheers FTRPLT

$175 for 5 pounds ?

Yes that is correct. $175 for 5 lbs.


Cheers,

RR

Nice price !
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:08 pm

It sold rather quickly!!!! Smile Smile Smile cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:02 pm

Despite what Mike McNeil says, I have a hard time believing this won't be made available again in the future. It stands to reason this is one of their top selling bulk blends, and very probably featured in their other blends.

Which component isn't available? And why? Not grown anymore? Hard to believe. McC must be a major purchaser and could keep this going. Or at least a match from another source.

I'd like to see a statement from Mike explaining this in detail. Not that I doubt him mind, just that I'd like to know the details that led to this. And make no mistake, I applaud McC for sticking to their QC and core values, all of which means that they are committed to the consistency and stability of their products. I totally respect that.

I have no illusions that this is a ploy to exploit the price of this fine blend. Just a curious consumer.


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RR

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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:36 pm

monbla256 wrote:
Here's the post I made about this on Dec, 12, 2017 :    
"Was going to order another pound of one of my fave Red Va's, McC's 5100 Red Cake and found out from Smoking Pipes that it is no more !! Seems this years crop of Carolina Red Va's was not up to their standards so it will not be blended. No word when it will be back !! I like it both fresh and cellar'd so wil have to break out one of my cellar'd pounds for this next year !! Sad day in Dodge ! " Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Again, here's what SP was told by Mike about why it is out of production. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:59 pm

What gets me about this whole discussion is the ever so slight difference Laughing between a "component" being missing/not available/not up to snuff, etc. to "this years crop of Carolina Red Va." not being up to their standard. An entire crop is one humongous bit of 'baccy!! Old Belt and Middle Belt alone are thousands of acres of leaf, not counting the other "Belts" where Carolina Red is grown. Note: I'm presuming Mike meant Carolina Red Va. as a whole, not just that grown in North and/or South Carolina. Lots of blenders use Carolina Red. McCrainie's Red Flake and Ribbon are from the North Carolina Old Belt. Should we be cautious about buying any Ginnyweed containing 2017 (I guess!) Red Va? All this has me quite curious. Plus I thought 5100 was just pure Carolina Red Ginnyweed! What's up with the "component" business? Inquiring minds want to know!!!!

Disclaimer: I have never smoked nor bought 5100RC. No dog in the fight!!! Just curious!!!! cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:18 pm

From what SP and McC said this years crop of Red Va from the Carolina's wasn't up to standards. Simple as that , the ingredients weren't right so it's not blended. Simple/dimple ! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:58 am

monbla256 wrote:
Simple as that , the ingredients weren't right so it's not blended. Simple/dimple ! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

From the several rumors (some new, some old) that have been going around about McClelland's future that I will not repeat it may not be that simple. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:15 am

Besides. Blending is a secret art. You've seen those guys. Pointy hats. Staff. Long robes. Talk to themselves a lot.


Never fear. It will be back. I suspect that there is plenty in cellars.

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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:44 am

daveinlax wrote:
monbla256 wrote:
Simple as that , the ingredients weren't right so it's not blended. Simple/dimple ! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

From the several rumors (some new, some old) that have been going around about McClelland's future that I will not repeat it may not be that simple. Shocked  

If I were McClelland's, I would be looking really hard at retirement plans. It was a great run while it lasted. The smoking environment has become very hostile and showing no signs of easing. Except for marijuana.

I can see it now..... Virginia Red Bud Flake. Marlboro Green. Alcapulco Plug. On sale for $89.95/50 gm tin.
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:32 pm

Gosh, losing 5100 is a real smack in the head. I still can't quite grasp the thought of having no more of this exquisite tobacco when my meager supply ends.

The thought of losing McClelland's entirely is just way too much to take in. WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY too much.
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:40 pm

McCranies sell 5100 under there own name as FIRST LIGHT and they still have stock. This is the real McCoy, you can take my word for it.

Unfortunately I can't order from them because they accept money order or cheques only.

I do have about 500g in stock but would have liked to order more 5)
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:59 pm

Shame they want so much for it. It was one i always intended to check out but never did get around to.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:53 pm

Thanks, Pete - I ordered up a pound. I know it would last monbla256 about a week, but it should do me fine for a good stash start (!).
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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:00 pm

Don't forget that McCranies Red Ribbon/Red Flake is in reality 5100 with specific crop years. Perhaps not as affordable as the bulk 5100. But iffen ya want it, there it is. And with some age on it as well.

(No I'm not a shill for McCranies).


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PostSubject: Re: McClelland 5100, RIP.   Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:59 pm

These are hard times, I'll takes what I kin gets..............
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