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LFOD



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PostSubject: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:46 pm

On a lark I bought some whole leaf from wholeleaftobacco.com. I figured I'd shred and age it and see what I end up with. Has anyone else here done this? If so what did you do for casing (or did you?).

I'm guessing the perique and turkish won't need any case but the red virginia could use some. Maybe honey and lemon in distilled water?

I've searched through the fairtrade forum but am still looking for ideas.

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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:46 pm

It depends on what your tastes run to. I can provide the casing recipe for Pall Mall or Japan Tobaccos Export cigs. Most casings contain licorice of some sort usually with cocoa and frequently with rum. There are tons of options.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:51 pm

I like to use more often than not a mix of distilled water, treacle, honey and vinegar. Sometimes with a bit of vegetable glycerin. There are many options, it depends on the flavour profile you're hunting for.
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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:57 pm

Here's a thought......

https://wholeleaftobacco.com/Cigarette-Tobacco-Casings_c25.htm

These could be good to experiment with! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:01 pm

It also depends on what other purpose the casing is to serve. Cigs generally use licorice and chocolate because they have an active effect on the lungs. One increases the blood flow to the lungs while the other opens the airways allowing the smoke to be inhaled into the lungs easier. Of course those flavors are also quite tasty with tobacco and can be used just for the flavor.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:40 am

Thanks guys.

Well my intent is to try to get as close as I can to 5100 Red Cake.  So tangy, dark fruit and some toasty and caramel flavors would be the profile I am trying for...

So maybe a little molasses, honey, vinegar, lemon, some sort of fruit extract?
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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:48 am

Never having had 5100 I'm afraid I'm not going to be much help with that.
It sounds like you are in the right track though. Start small and make adjustments as you go.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:09 am

Well I picked up molasses, maple sugar, anise extract, orange extract, and a couple other things and when I get a chance this weekend I'll try a couple of things.
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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:22 pm

Let us know how it goes for ya. Work in small batches and give them at least 2 days to hydrate and settle down. I find working the tobacco on a cookie sheet in a warm (200*) oven is a big help in opening the pores of the leaf so it absorbs the casing better .

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: whole leaf casing suggestions?   Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:16 pm

huffelpuff wrote:
Let us know how it goes for ya. Work in small batches and give them at least 2 days to hydrate and settle down. I find working the tobacco on a cookie sheet in a warm (200*) oven is a big help in opening the pores of the leaf so it absorbs the casing better .

Jim

Yup!
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