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AdamCordray

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PostSubject: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:00 pm

Over the past year I have been smoking almost exclusively Virginia based blends, whether itís a straight VA, blended with Turkish/Orientals, Burley/KY, Perique, or any combination of the above. I just canít seem to stomach Latakia anymore. About the most I can do is GL Pease Fillmore but even something like Laurel Heights disagrees with my palate. Just the smell of Latakia is enough to turn me off... I find it a little odd, and canít determine whatís changed with my taste. In the past I enjoyed English and Balkan blends, and a significant portion of my cellar contains Latakia to some extent. Iím not in any hurry to start selling off tobacco ó I suppose part of me hopes I will drift back towards them in the future. Anyone else gone through something like this?

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Richard Burley

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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:10 pm

Yeah, me--in reverse. I detested latakia for a decade or so when starting out on this glorious vice. I find it refreshing after straight virginias, burleys, whatever.
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Zeno Marx

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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:19 pm

I used to smoke 95% robust Englishes. Now I smoke 95% Virginias. I've always liked both. I always had a tin of Escudo opened and smoking. If I get real reflective about it, I don't think my tongue and tastes have changed. I still love the flavor of latakia. I just don't crave it like I once did. Now, I find myself craving Virginia. I also think it has to do with trying newer latakia blends and not thinking very highly of them and the demise of my staples, like BS759. The Virginia blender game is still playing at a high level, while I don't find that to be the same for English blends, which makes sense because some of the components are no longer available at all. And aging isn't driving the English blends.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:23 pm

I've had the exact same experience over the past year or two, except for me, it's gotten to the point that I actually unloaded almost everything I had containing Latakia. I always bring an extra cob or clay to the pipe club meetup and sample a Lat blend to see if anything has changed, or if there is an unfamiliar Lat blend that agrees with me. At this point I have not had great results. I guess I'll just have to enjoy the VAs.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:27 pm

You are not alone Adam. My observations over 30+ years quite a few pipers that go full bore into heavy lat blends get burnt out on them. I believe this is probably going to happen even more now as Cyprian lat is a different beast than Syrian. If you have any old tins of Syrian lat blends you might try smoking those and see if they are a problem too. If you don't want to sell off you could try blending a VA you like with very small amounts of your lat blends and see how you do. All I can offer are my condolences I hope things straighten out for you taste wise. I'm sure the other brothers will chime in. I know Brewdude went through this as well as Blackhorse I believe.

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Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:13 pm

Wow, that's too bad, but hold on to those lat blends, because some day you might want to go back to them. With me, I had a problem with perique blends and some Virginias. I use to enjoy them a lot, but then I couldn't get to smoking them without my stomach getting turned inside out. I just put them away and maybe will try some of them in the near future. With lat blends, I have always liked them, and have never tired of them... yet!
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:51 pm

I really enjoy Latakia but as my taste for Virginia based blends has developed, I have found that I strongly prefer Latakia almost strictly in a condiment role. Blends like Tashkent and Margate are about as heavy as I like it.

If I smoke over the top Lat-heavy Englishes, I typically have take a break from piping to reset my taste-buds if I want to go back to enjoying my favorite Virginia based blends. Heavy Latakia's tend to screw with my ability to taste complexities in milder mixtures.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:41 pm

huffelpuff wrote:
You are not alone Adam. My observations over 30+ years quite a few pipers that go full bore into heavy lat blends get burnt out on them. I believe this is probably going to happen even more now as Cyprian lat is a different beast than Syrian. If you have any old tins of Syrian lat blends you might try smoking those and see if they are a problem too. If you don't want to sell off you could try blending a VA you like with very small amounts of your lat blends and see how you do. All I can offer are my condolences I hope things straighten out for you taste wise. I'm sure the other brothers will chime in. I know Brewdude went through this as well as Blackhorse I believe.[

Best of luck
Jim

Right on Jim. Used to love it many years ago. Now, not so much. And while I don't hate it I rarely reach for a lat blend.


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Hermit

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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:25 pm

It happened to me too, a few years ago.
I used to love it, now I don't. pale
I still have a bunch of it to get rid of.
I suppose the Dunhills and McClellands should be easy to sell/trade.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:53 pm

As long as its pretty condimental I'm OK with Latakia. But its getting to where the last tin of vintage Syrian I got I mixed it fifty/fifty with some Virginias to tone it down. I've been working on a tin of red rapparee for the second year now... It's well decanted!

But tastes sometimes come and go, no worries!
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:28 pm

For anyone who wants to get rid of the latakia, PM me as I would like to be the recipient of that nasty stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:59 pm

hobie1dog wrote:
For anyone who wants to get rid of the latakia, PM me as I would like to be the recipient of that nasty stuff.

I'll remember this going forward. But it will have to wait until after my move to AZ in a month.

Wink



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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:00 am

Having smoked (what I & some others consider) the finest English/Balkan ever blended, BS 759 for almost 30 years I was introduced to the world of NC Va's as blended by the folks in KC, McClellands and I moved away from Latakia focused blends only with an occasional tin or two of 965 finally settling on one Va blend, Royal Yacht with an occasional bowl or two of Arango's Balkan Supreme. After 50 years of pipe smoking this is where I'm at, a Va lover who likes to dip into the world of Latakia occasionally. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:23 am

AdamCordray wrote:
†Anyone else gone through something like this?

No Evil or Very Mad !
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:27 am

Iím exactly in the same place. Smoked L Weed for years and gradually started drifting away then abruptly couldnít stand it at all. Donít know why so many guys go through this...but many, many do. Weird. I can still enjoy Dark Fired Kentucky though. But mostly I prefer the sweeter meats...VA & Burley & Turkish & Cigar Leaf either alone or in various blends. No loss. Still PLENTY of stuff to enjoy.

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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:42 am

probably the reason why i smoke a pipe is latakia. if it ever happens to me that i do not like it anymore...then i will smoke cigars only. it never happened in over 40 years of smoking so it is very unlikely that it happens. i only smoke one or two pipes a day.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:08 am

DrumsAndBeer wrote:
I really enjoy Latakia but as my taste for Virginia based blends has developed, I have found that I strongly prefer Latakia almost strictly in a condiment role. Blends like Tashkent and Margate are about as heavy as I like it.

If I smoke over the top Lat-heavy Englishes, I typically have take a break from piping to reset my taste-buds if I want to go back to enjoying my favorite Virginia based blends. Heavy Latakia's tend to screw with my ability to taste complexities in milder mixtures.

The voice of reason, as usual. Three thumbs up!
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:13 pm

Still a "Lat Head" after all these years!! I enjoy Ginnyweed, VaPer, Va/Oriental, some Burleys, even a very few aros. But the lure of Latweed always pulls me back!!! Just finished a 10-year-old jar of PS Balkan Supreme. Just devine, glad I have more!! cheers FTRPLT
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:32 pm

Blackhorse wrote:
Iím exactly in the same place. Smoked L Weed for years and gradually started drifting away then abruptly couldnít stand it at all. Donít know why so many guys go through this...but many, many do. Weird. I can still enjoy Dark Fired Kentucky though. But mostly I prefer the sweeter meats...VA & Burley & Turkish & Cigar Leaf either alone or in various blends. No loss. Still PLENTY of stuff to enjoy.

I used to smoke a few bowls of the earlier, better Balkan Sobranie a day. As time has gone on, I need less latakia in my life. I think one of the reasons many get tired of it as we get older is because taste buds can dull with age, and latakia can dull the tongue, both aspects making the experience less enjoyable.

And sometimes, enough is just enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:31 pm

Yeah, maybe. †But itís not like I just donít prefer it...I canít STAND it. Itís gaggy, yuk, pooey. †:0= <ó (barfing emoticon)

Well, just MY problem.

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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:02 pm

I'm pretty much painting my tongue with heavy lat blends. Pirate Kake, most of the Captain Earle's blends, Plum Pudding SR etc.
I keep hearing about people's palates turning as they mature but as far as pipe smoking goes, I guess I'm still in high school with a cellar that's 100% English blends. Still can't stand too much Virginia.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:06 pm

For myself, I wonder how much of it has to do with the changing quality of the product itself. Did I coincidentally find myself in the Golden Period of latakia production and didn't realize it? Only certain types and didn't realize it? I'd be the first to admit I wasn't paying much attention to the details on the tins, and even now, I can't really tell you what was in them. I've never bothered to make note of it. I'm much more aware of that now in the newer blends I smoke, but that is as financially driven as anything. Back then, I could afford to experiment with little information. I wasn't careless, but I wasn't exactly careful either. I'm not like that anymore. I haven't had great luck with what little experimentation I have done, and that certainly does not help latakia matters.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:10 pm

I have had a phase where, for a duration of about three or four years, all Latakia blends were simply bland to my palate. That was about 6 years ago.
Now, seems like everything is back to normal, i.e. I am enjoying them once more.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost the Love for Latakia   Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:05 pm

Same for me, years ago I moved on from Lat blends to mostly Virginiaís, but really any blend that doesnít contain Latakia.

Occasionally I get a hankering for some but only as a light touch such as in Scottish blends. Very rarely I get a craving for Nightcap though so I have a few tins on hand for those occasions.
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PostSubject: Lost the Love for Latakia   Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:14 pm

Still enjoy Bengal Slices, Plum Pudding, etal. But Burley has gotten my attention as of recent. Particularly MacBarren's new HH Burley Flake and Butternut Burley for an aro fix. Va. and VaPer still burn the hell out of my mouth...probably a Ph thing. (and me with all this McClelland product).
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