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gonefishing
Number of posts: 98 Registration date: 2010-04-14
 | Subject: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 4:31 pm | |
| I may have jumped in the deep end boys! Cigars=easy Pipes=hard After accumulating 9 pipes and about 50 tins and some large samples from Natch, I have decided this may be the end  I can't keep a pipe lit, it's wet, I have spent too many hours to count reading, trying to learn and for shit.  I get maybe 3 puffs and gone nothing. I have smoked it moist, dry, very dry, and even OTC's..... nothing. I have lit it a lot, a little, and in-between.....nothing. This is so nerve racking hobby ever.....well maybe golf  Any advice before I sell everything and go back to my Padron's? I don't think I have one more bowl in me  |
|  | | Centurian 803 Long Arm O' The Law

Number of posts: 1541 Age: 61 Location: Oak Ridge, TN Tobacco: Gatlin Burley, Exhausted Rooster, EMP etc, etc.... Pipe: GBD Canadian-Sasquatch Canadian Registration date: 2008-09-10
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 4:35 pm | |
| The only advice I can give is DON'T GIVE UP!!!!!! Do you have a friend or aquaintance who can mentor you through it? It really is worth the effort to get past the learning curve. |
|  | | Justpipes The Duke

Number of posts: 7927 Age: 53 Location: Randolph County, NC If you don't know, you wouldn't understand. Tobacco: John Middleton Walnut, Prince Albert, GLP Cumberland, C&D Exhausted Rooster , add Carter Hall to the mix, as well as Perfection Plug Burley Pipe: Brissetts, Kaywoodies Registration date: 2007-12-17
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 4:38 pm | |
| I guess it has to be something that you really want, because I just don't see it as that difficult. |
|  | | gonefishing
Number of posts: 98 Registration date: 2010-04-14
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 4:40 pm | |
| I wish I had a mentor  They all smoke cigars and I am in the boondocks of SD. No B&M, within 100 miles and that is a cigar place  |
|  | | gonefishing
Number of posts: 98 Registration date: 2010-04-14
 | |  | | Justpipes The Duke

Number of posts: 7927 Age: 53 Location: Randolph County, NC If you don't know, you wouldn't understand. Tobacco: John Middleton Walnut, Prince Albert, GLP Cumberland, C&D Exhausted Rooster , add Carter Hall to the mix, as well as Perfection Plug Burley Pipe: Brissetts, Kaywoodies Registration date: 2007-12-17
 | |  | | Yak Resident Philosopher

Number of posts: 3580 Location: Yaksylvania Tobacco: Embarcadero, FVF Pipe: Anglo-Irish estates with LL lucite stems. Registration date: 2007-12-10
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 4:55 pm | |
| You have that problem on both extremes -- either packed way too loose, or way too tight. Either error will get you that result. PLAY with it. Repeatedly doing it the same way will only get you more of the same result. It's never going to behave like a cigar. Re-lights are nothing to feel bad about. A big draw and then another, thirty seconds later is not the way to go. Nurse it with more frequent, shallower sips. Pipes are interactive. Let it show you how it likes to be treated  |
|  | | gonefishing
Number of posts: 98 Registration date: 2010-04-14
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 5:10 pm | |
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|  | | gonefishing
Number of posts: 98 Registration date: 2010-04-14
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 5:13 pm | |
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|  | | Hermit

Number of posts: 2714 Age: 59 Location: Ascension Parish Tobacco: Exhausted Rooster Pipe: Rad Davis Golden Blast Apple Registration date: 2008-04-22
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 5:18 pm | |
| I have a load of cigars I'm hot to trade for tobacco.  |
|  | | Doc Manhattan BoB's Team

Number of posts: 3490 Age: 33 Location: Land of Steady Habits Tobacco: GH Flakes Pipe: Gregor Lobnik Registration date: 2008-05-26
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 5:21 pm | |
| Sorry if it's not working out for you right now.
I can't offer concrete advice as well as the wise and experienced fellows here, but two little things--apologies if you've tried these already:
1. A corn cob is, for many new smokers, the most forgiving. For that reason, I also think cobs are good teachers: if good quality tobacco in a cob is giving you a hot, unpleasant smoke, it tells you there's a problem with packing or smoking pace, and you can adjust.
2. Have you tried a blend with a strong cigar leaf flavor? It may not be what you're looking for in a pipe, but with all your cigar experience, you'll at least know when you're "getting it," and apply what's going right to other smokes.
Above all things, you have the luxury of time: you can always mason jar your open tobaccos, put your pipes aside a while (out of the sun is best), and revisit them only when a pipe really seems to strike your mood. It'll be waiting for you. _________________ I've finally stopped getting dumber. -Paul Erdös, epitaph for himself
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|  | | Joseph76

Number of posts: 134 Location: Ontario, Canada Registration date: 2008-12-26
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 5:27 pm | |
| If you don't enjoy it, why bother? Pipe smoking isn't for everybody. I'm the opposite, after a dozen years of cigar smoking I re-discovered the pipe and learned how to pack, tamp, light, smoke properly; now I don't really enjoy cigars anymore, I find pipe tobacco far more satisfying on every level. |
|  | | gonefishing
Number of posts: 98 Registration date: 2010-04-14
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 6:47 pm | |
| | Doc Manhattan wrote: | Sorry if it's not working out for you right now.
I can't offer concrete advice as well as the wise and experienced fellows here, but two little things--apologies if you've tried these already:
1. A corn cob is, for many new smokers, the most forgiving. For that reason, I also think cobs are good teachers: if good quality tobacco in a cob is giving you a hot, unpleasant smoke, it tells you there's a problem with packing or smoking pace, and you can adjust.
2. Have you tried a blend with a strong cigar leaf flavor? It may not be what you're looking for in a pipe, but with all your cigar experience, you'll at least know when you're "getting it," and apply what's going right to other smokes.
Above all things, you have the luxury of time: you can always mason jar your open tobaccos, put your pipes aside a while (out of the sun is best), and revisit them only when a pipe really seems to strike your mood. It'll be waiting for you. |
Thanks Doc! I have tried some of your advice, I actually seem to do better in a briar than a cob for some reason. The cob really gets wet and I get the dreaded black liquid in my mouth  |
|  | | Yak Resident Philosopher

Number of posts: 3580 Location: Yaksylvania Tobacco: Embarcadero, FVF Pipe: Anglo-Irish estates with LL lucite stems. Registration date: 2007-12-10
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 7:01 pm | |
| Keep a folded-up kleenex handy. Turn your pipe stem-down occasionally & blot that nasty liquid up. The more you get the hang of it (and every freaking tobacco is going to be different -- no one size fits all with pipeweeds as far as packing goes -- especially flakes) the less of it there'll be. Persistence in a righteous course brings reward [ I Ching]  |
|  | | Al in Canada

Number of posts: 383 Age: 66 Location: Blenheim, Ontario Tobacco: SG Balkan Blend; Solani 369; Rattray's Highland Targe; McR's Roll Cake; McB's Plum Cake, and I am still hunting. Pipe: Favourite pipe? Oh my, is it my Karl Erik Egg, or ,maybe my one dot Saseni, no, maybe one of the DHs, or my XL Peterson, oh I can't choose. Thank goodness i don't have to choose just one. Registration date: 2009-04-19
 | Subject: Re: I may be done with pipes Wed May 19, 2010 7:54 pm | |
| | gonefishing wrote: | I may have jumped in the deep end boys! Cigars=easy Pipes=hard After accumulating 9 pipes and about 50 tins and some large samples from Natch, I have decided this may be the end I can't keep a pipe lit, it's wet, I have spent too many hours to count reading, trying to learn and for shit. I get maybe 3 puffs and gone nothing. I have smoked it moist, dry, very dry, and even OTC's..... nothing. I have lit it a lot, a little, and in-between.....nothing. This is so nerve racking hobby ever.....well maybe golf Any advice before I sell everything and go back to my Padron's? I don't think I have one more bowl in me  |
It sounds to me like a packing problem. But rejoice there is hope. If the pack is too loose the fire will quickly go out, if it is too tight the tobacco when lit will expand with heat and not allow the air to flow...and it will go out.
The first site lists several different methods of filling your pipe:
http://pipesmagazine.com/python/pipe-smoking/tobacco-pipe-packing-methods/
or a keep it simple method: http://www.mccranies.com/pipes_pleasure.html
And it is worth the effort, when you can get beyond the problem of keeping it lit you will have the joy of seeking your holy grail(s), the perfect blend(s). And so many cigar smokers have told me there are just so many great tasting pipe tobaccos that they couldn't imagine it when they started, and so much cheaper than what their taste in cigars cost them. Even if you decide that aged tins of Balkan Sobranie are the only ones worth smoking it is much less per smoke than a top of the line cigar.
Good luck, relax and enjoy your pipe,
Al (in Canada) |
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