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gonefishing



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PostSubject: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 4:31 pm

I may have jumped in the deep end boys! Cigars=easy Pipes=hard After accumulating 9 pipes and about 50 tins and some large samples from Natch, I have decided this may be the end Shocked I can't keep a pipe lit, it's wet, I have spent too many hours to count reading, trying to learn and for shit. No I get maybe 3 puffs and gone nothing. I have smoked it moist, dry, very dry, and even OTC's..... nothing. I have lit it a lot, a little, and in-between.....nothing. This is so nerve racking hobby ever.....well maybe golf Very Happy Any advice before I sell everything and go back to my Padron's? I don't think I have one more bowl in me Mad
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 4:35 pm

The only advice I can give is DON'T GIVE UP!!!!!! Do you have a friend or aquaintance who can mentor you through it? It really is worth the effort to get past the learning curve.
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 4:38 pm

I guess it has to be something that you really want, because I just don't see it as that difficult.
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 4:40 pm

I wish I had a mentor Crying or Very sad They all smoke cigars and I am in the boondocks of SD. No B&M, within 100 miles and that is a cigar place Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 4:43 pm

Justpipes wrote:
I guess it has to be something that you really want, because I just don't see it as that difficult.



Really want huh? It is a hobby, I worked in the military......I don't want it that bad I guess Rolling Eyes Maybe if there was like more money at the end of the rainbow, I would "want" it more Shocked Poker payed off though Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 4:53 pm

gonefishing wrote:
Justpipes wrote:
I guess it has to be something that you really want, because I just don't see it as that difficult.



Really want huh? It is a hobby, I worked in the military......I don't want it that bad I guess Rolling Eyes Maybe if there was like more money at the end of the rainbow, I would "want" it more Shocked Poker payed off though Very Happy


Honestly, you probably just need to try some John Middleton Walnut and I believe you troubles would be over.
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 4:55 pm

You have that problem on both extremes -- either packed way too loose, or way too tight. Either error will get you that result.

PLAY with it. Repeatedly doing it the same way will only get you more of the same result.

It's never going to behave like a cigar.

Re-lights are nothing to feel bad about.

A big draw and then another, thirty seconds later is not the way to go. Nurse it with more frequent, shallower sips.

Pipes are interactive.

Let it show you how it likes to be treated Cool

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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 5:10 pm

Yak wrote:
You have that problem on both extremes -- either packed way too loose, or way too tight. Either error will get you that result.

PLAY with it. Repeatedly doing it the same way will only get you more of the same result.

It's never going to behave like a cigar.

Re-lights are nothing to feel bad about.

A big draw and then another, thirty seconds later is not the way to go. Nurse it with more frequent, shallower sips.

Pipes are interactive.

Let it show you how it likes to be treated Cool

What a Face


Albert Einstein Insanity Cool Nice... I like your style Cool Now if Obama could learn this Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 5:13 pm

Justpipes wrote:
gonefishing wrote:
Justpipes wrote:
I guess it has to be something that you really want, because I just don't see it as that difficult.



Really want huh? It is a hobby, I worked in the military......I don't want it that bad I guess Rolling Eyes Maybe if there was like more money at the end of the rainbow, I would "want" it more Shocked Poker payed off though Very Happy


Honestly, you probably just need to try some John Middleton Walnut and I believe you troubles would be over.



I was smoking my pipe over a fire pit of Walnut, maybe that is the problem.....the good baccy is getting sick Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 5:18 pm

I have a load of cigars I'm hot to trade for tobacco. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 5:21 pm

Sorry if it's not working out for you right now.

I can't offer concrete advice as well as the wise and experienced fellows here, but two little things--apologies if you've tried these already:

1. A corn cob is, for many new smokers, the most forgiving. For that reason, I also think cobs are good teachers: if good quality tobacco in a cob is giving you a hot, unpleasant smoke, it tells you there's a problem with packing or smoking pace, and you can adjust.

2. Have you tried a blend with a strong cigar leaf flavor? It may not be what you're looking for in a pipe, but with all your cigar experience, you'll at least know when you're "getting it," and apply what's going right to other smokes.

Above all things, you have the luxury of time: you can always mason jar your open tobaccos, put your pipes aside a while (out of the sun is best), and revisit them only when a pipe really seems to strike your mood. It'll be waiting for you.

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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 5:27 pm

If you don't enjoy it, why bother? Pipe smoking isn't for everybody. I'm the opposite, after a dozen years of cigar smoking I re-discovered the pipe and learned how to pack, tamp, light, smoke properly; now I don't really enjoy cigars anymore, I find pipe tobacco far more satisfying on every level.
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 6:47 pm

Doc Manhattan wrote:
Sorry if it's not working out for you right now.

I can't offer concrete advice as well as the wise and experienced fellows here, but two little things--apologies if you've tried these already:

1. A corn cob is, for many new smokers, the most forgiving. For that reason, I also think cobs are good teachers: if good quality tobacco in a cob is giving you a hot, unpleasant smoke, it tells you there's a problem with packing or smoking pace, and you can adjust.

2. Have you tried a blend with a strong cigar leaf flavor? It may not be what you're looking for in a pipe, but with all your cigar experience, you'll at least know when you're "getting it," and apply what's going right to other smokes.

Above all things, you have the luxury of time: you can always mason jar your open tobaccos, put your pipes aside a while (out of the sun is best), and revisit them only when a pipe really seems to strike your mood. It'll be waiting for you.


Thanks Doc! I have tried some of your advice, I actually seem to do better in a briar than a cob for some reason. The cob really gets wet and I get the dreaded black liquid in my mouth Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 7:01 pm

Keep a folded-up kleenex handy. Turn your pipe stem-down occasionally & blot that nasty liquid up. The more you get the hang of it (and every freaking tobacco is going to be different -- no one size fits all with pipeweeds as far as packing goes -- especially flakes) the less of it there'll be.

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PostSubject: Re: I may be done with pipes   Wed May 19, 2010 7:54 pm

gonefishing wrote:
I may have jumped in the deep end boys! Cigars=easy Pipes=hard After accumulating 9 pipes and about 50 tins and some large samples from Natch, I have decided this may be the end Shocked I can't keep a pipe lit, it's wet, I have spent too many hours to count reading, trying to learn and for shit. No I get maybe 3 puffs and gone nothing. I have smoked it moist, dry, very dry, and even OTC's..... nothing. I have lit it a lot, a little, and in-between.....nothing. This is so nerve racking hobby ever.....well maybe golf Very Happy Any advice before I sell everything and go back to my Padron's? I don't think I have one more bowl in me Mad


It sounds to me like a packing problem. But rejoice there is hope. If the pack is too loose the fire will quickly go out, if it is too tight the tobacco when lit will expand with heat and not allow the air to flow...and it will go out.

The first site lists several different methods of filling your pipe:

http://pipesmagazine.com/python/pipe-smoking/tobacco-pipe-packing-methods/

or a keep it simple method:
http://www.mccranies.com/pipes_pleasure.html

And it is worth the effort, when you can get beyond the problem of keeping it lit you will have the joy of seeking your holy grail(s), the perfect blend(s). And so many cigar smokers have told me there are just so many great tasting pipe tobaccos that they couldn't imagine it when they started, and so much cheaper than what their taste in cigars cost them. Even if you decide that aged tins of Balkan Sobranie are the only ones worth smoking it is much less per smoke than a top of the line cigar.

Good luck, relax and enjoy your pipe,

Al (in Canada)
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