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JR's is having a blowout sale, supposedly because of the fear of an S-CHIP tax pending.

Aaron · Subject: Re: S-Chip Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:42 pm

Bill wrote:

JR's is having a blowout sale, supposedly because of the fear of an S-CHIP tax pending.

if that tax passes, I'm out of a job because my boss with go out of business. Everyone write your State Rep.

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"I am lost without my Boswell." - Sherlock Holmes

Hermit · Subject: Re: S-Chip Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:46 pm

Aaron wrote:

Bill wrote:

JR's is having a blowout sale, supposedly because of the fear of an S-CHIP tax pending.

if that tax passes, I'm out of a job because my boss with go out of business. Everyone write your State Rep.

I wrote to mine.
I might as well have written my letters on
toilet paper and wiped my ass with them. Mad

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Hermit · Subject: Re: S-Chip Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:46 pm

BTW, what do you mean "IF" it passes? Mad

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- Norman Thomas, (1884-1968) six-time U.S. Presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

Aaron · Subject: Re: S-Chip Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:52 pm

if it passes it will fail miserably. Tobacco sales will fall sharply. No one wants to pay 2 dollars tax on a 2 dollar cigar like cuban rejects let alone a $7.50 Java or any other high end cigar for that matter.... yeah, I'll be out of a job.

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Smoke your pipe and be silent, for there is only smoke and wind in the world." -Irish Proverb

"I have some friends, some honest friends, and honest friends are few: a pipe of briar, an open fire, and books that aren't too new" -Robert Service

"I am lost without my Boswell." - Sherlock Holmes

Hermit · Subject: Re: S-Chip Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:52 pm

Aaron wrote:

if it passes it will fail miserably. Tobacco sales will fall sharply. No one wants to pay 2 dollars tax on a 2 dollar cigar like cuban rejects let alone a $7.50 Java or any other high end cigar for that matter.... yeah, I'll be out of a job.

Yeah, but it's "for the children."

Funding an expanding program with a decreasing revenue
source is just plain fucking stupid, but hey it's Washington. Rolling Eyes

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"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, (1884-1968) six-time U.S. Presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

Aaron · Subject: Re: S-Chip Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:29 pm

I really hope it doesn't pass. They have already proven that tobacco sales will go down if this passes and they are still going ahead with it. Ludicrous I say!

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Smoke your pipe and be silent, for there is only smoke and wind in the world." -Irish Proverb

"I have some friends, some honest friends, and honest friends are few: a pipe of briar, an open fire, and books that aren't too new" -Robert Service

"I am lost without my Boswell." - Sherlock Holmes

Hermit · Subject: Re: S-Chip Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:56 pm

Aaron wrote:

I really hope it doesn't pass. They have already proven that tobacco sales will go down if this passes and they are still going ahead with it. Ludicrous I say!

I hate to bum you out, but it will pass.
The only reason it's not already law is
that President Bush vetoed it twice.
The Obama has pledged to sign it.
Sorry. Crying or Very sad

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"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, (1884-1968) six-time U.S. Presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

EJinVA · Subject: Re: S-Chip Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:08 am

I haven't heard all the details just what the media allows to be fed to us. Is the tax on all tobacco products or just cigarettes & cigars? Are they planning to tax pipe, RYO, snuff, chewing, dipping- all tobaccos?

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ftrplt · Subject: Re: S-Chip Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:53 am

While the media only refers to a "cigarette" tax, as I understand it; the tax will hammer all tobacco products. Cigars are hit especially hard as the initial "floor" tax used to kick start the program will end up being levied on each "stick." Twisted Evil

This floor tax is an inventory tax levied on a business owners current inventory

Read Lew Rothman's take on all this on the JR Cigar website. Think what a $1 per cigar tax (plus the taxes on all the other tobacco products!) will do to most B & M's. These far-left StormTroopers want $$$ up front!! We had this discussion in a Rubber Room thread. This feel-good "kiddy" program will allow parents earning up to about $63K (the states can approve up to $80+K!!) to dump their kids off their insurance plans and on to the public coffers!! The DC crowd jocolor

has no clue what this program will cost Evil or Very Mad

I bet it takes less than two years for them to realize that their beloved tobacco taxes ain't enough to pay for it. Change is coming; time to spread the wealth around bom

FTRPLT

Update: If your local paper runs it, read George Will's syndicated column covering this subject. Now it looks like with all the "deductions" that may be taken under this expanded SCHIP version, families making around $100,000 can qualify to get their kids on this program Suspect

YGBSM!!

What a great country!! Where was this program when I coulda used it Question

Better start smoking up a storm to pay for all this, folks!! FTRPLT

EJinVA · Subject: Re: S-Chip Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:21 pm

I've been reading up on it. 6000% (yes! six thousand!) percent increase of the taxes on cigars, 700% on Rolling Tobacco and 160% on cigarettes, rolling papers, cig tubes, snuff, chewing tobacco & pipe tobacco. It will probably pass this week. No wonder my FVF by the pound is sold out at smokingpipes.com.

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"...So it shall be for all time. If discord has broken out between two beings, let them smoke together. United by this bond, they will live in peace and friendship thereafter."
-attributed to the Great Manitu, the Great Spirit

mark · Subject: Re: S-Chip Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:38 pm

THAT'S ENOUGH,,, you're scaring me,, affraid

,time to break open the piggy bank and stock up,,,

ftrplt · Subject: Re: S-Chip Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:02 pm

Quite frankly.....my recent tobac buying binge was based on the fear of price increases (which happened on some items shortly thereafter!!) and this SCHIP tax. FTRPLT

bronxbill · Subject: Re: S-Chip Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:24 pm

Yea, I finally bit the bullet and bought over 3lbs of various tobacs to beat the tax increase. Hope I bought enough to carry me to next month Very Happy

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