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Slow Puffs
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PostSubject: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:02 pm

I don’t know how many different blends of pipe tobacco I have. I consider myself a tobacco collector more than a pipe collector. It’s likely because I live in Canukville where pipe tobacco is a precious and expensive commodity. I don’t have magnitudes of “same” blends. Most tins are “single “ blend with the exception being multiples of those that I enjoy more than others. There are few true “aromatics” in my collection.
At this point, after much reflection, I think it is “decision time”. It’s time to take the sword and cut my “eclectic” nature.

1] I am a heavy smoker. I can go through two tins a week easily. That’s about 100 tins a year. Even at that rate, it will take a few years to smoke through that (including my jars of bulk tobacco). If I don’t come up with new philosophy, there will be just too many left unopened, too many regrets.

2] I find I am leaving un-smoked too many tobaccos that I really enjoy, sacrificing quality for numbers. It just doesn’t make sense. Then again, is there really a rationale when it comes to our hobby?

3] I’m concerned about the pricing trend. In Canukville, we are near the mountaintop, as far as costs go. I see the same trend occurring in the USA. It started slowly, but accelerated at an amazing pace. Believe it or not, at one point there was a “roll back” in prices when contraband tobacco became a more difficult issue to deal with than price increases. Native Reserves were targeted and there was violence, but when these issues seem to become “manageable” to an acceptable level, prices again increased. We are pretty near to the maximum. It’s reached the point of diminishing returns. Smoking has dropped significantly.

4] When, not if, prices climb in the USA, it will be prohibitive for a fellow like me to get the blends he really wants.

5] Access to tobacco products will become as big an issue as price. In Canukville, no tobacco products can be “visually” seen. They must be hidden. Stand alone B&M’s must cover their windows and have warning signs. I worry about “etailers”. Will one stroke of the law forbid tobacco to be sold over the internet?

So with these and other considerations, I am changing my Cellaring/Collecting philosophy. I cannot say I have found my “deserted island” blend. I have decided to choose a “blender” that I simply love most, if not all of the tobacco blends. From now on I’m ordering GLP. I know I won’t regret it. In five years time, I don’t want to be kicking my ass with “if only’s”, “why do I have so much Walnut”, “what was I thinking in buying so much Mac Baren Navy Flake”. I feel I can enjoy quality blends that I enjoy, while working through all those eclectic blends that are just sitting there aging.

This is a personal decision at this stage in my cellaring.

Smile Paul

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:18 pm

A smart decision, to be sure.

I have the added paranoia of having very little cellared! Something about filling up my closet in my parents' house with "evil tobacco"... Very Happy

I'm just hoping I can get a decent job and start buying tobacco before it becomes too expensive. As much as I'd like to start stockpiling now, tins are just too expensive. I suppose I could buy in bulk, but I'm nervous about buying large amounts without testing the tinned version first.

Ah well. Maybe I can go on a spending spree this summer! Razz

I guess I was just born too late, tobacco's damn expensive, and I'll never know the pleasure of smoking indoors... Crying or Very sad

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:38 am

Slow Puffs wrote:

3] I’m concerned about the pricing trend.....

4] When, not if, prices climb in the USA, it will be prohibitive for a fellow like me to get the blends he really wants.

5] Access to tobacco products will become as big an issue as price. .... I worry about “etailers”. Will one stroke of the law forbid tobacco to be sold over the internet?


I have only had this hobby since 2004 - hardly enough time for my tastes to truly mature especially since I smoke infrequently, but I have the same concerns as Slow Puffs about the future of pipe tobacco here in the US.

So I have worked to be "ahead of the curve". As a result my cellar statistics are:

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The cellar contains 254 tins and has 80 blends represented.
  • The cellar contains 254 tins and has 80 blends represented.
  • We will find 54 lbs. 14 oz. of tobacco in the collection.
  • This quantity of tobacco is estimated to fill approximately 8,783 of the owner's pipes.
  • The cellar should endure 36 yrs, 7 mos at the defined smoking pace.


All because those in government abhor freedom and liberty. Some days I wonder if I shouldn't also be cellaring cases of my favorite single-malt scotches....
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:49 am

When I started cellaring it was with the game plan of when the kid goes to college I want enough tobacco to last me the fours years without having to buy. He joined the Navy so that "reason" for cellaring became a mute point. I am well past the "four-year-supply" mark but have no heart burn over the size of my cellar due to the economic times. My biggest fear right now is becoming un-employed because of this Topsy/turvy world of airlines. At least I will have enough tobacco to smoke even if I am living in a tent. I keep bulk of my everyday English blends but the vast majority of my tins other than Pembroke, HH Vintage Syrian and a few others are either one or two tins of a blend. I too fear that one day here in the USA you will no longer be able purchase pipe blends on the Internet. When that happens I think people who have large cellars will be able to trade for blends that they like. I haven't really gone to one individual blender but I mainly cellar English blends.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:53 am

I share similar concerns to those voiced. Over the past two years I've focused on building up a stock of bulk tobacco, interspersed with a solid number of tins. So far I have just over 70 pounds. I have no idea when I'll stop. I see Carlos has over 200 pounds cellared. That sounds like a good number. My biggest fear is changing taste. Geez, Im in the process of developing an affinity for 1792 - I couldn't stand the stuff a year ago! Restriction on tobacco purchases via the internet is, IMO, a when not if thing. I think one has to go for it while one can. Accumulate like crazy. The stuff will be worth a fortune!
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:56 am

I just want to elaborate on choosing "a single blender". If I were living south of the border, it might be a different decision. It's quite practical, really.

GLP is not available here. I've smoked almost all the current GLP offerings. There is wonderful diversity in case of "change of taste". I find all the GLP blends are super. I suspect, that when the time comes for my family to dispose of my collection, GLP would be fairly easy to find people who may be willing to take it.

It could easily have been Dunhill... but while I have been "exploring blends" now I can't get many of the Dunhill. I have 12 different Dunhill blends but too many are single tins Sad . Now I'm kicking myself.

It will take a while to "build up" the GLP and after that I may rethink this strategy.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:18 am

I cellar for different reasons it seems. I became a daily and almost exclusively PIPE smoker when I finally started making money at work. I started cellaring thinking more of retirement when I won't be able to order 5 pound of tobacco. I have 6 years of tobacco stored (according to that online cellar that people use). At one time I hoped to retire at 55, which assuming I lived to 60 would work out.

As I discussed with some of you in chat, I made 7k less money last year than the previous year, so now my tobacco cellar may come into play as the economy continues to whoop up on some of us.

As far as changing tastes, I find that I have tins/jars of tobacco that I haven't smoked in a while, but when I pop them, it's like visiting with an old friend I haven't seen in a while and a welcome visit at that (with lament that I didn't cellar more).

I am also concerned about possible legislation (especially with the trend of people voting like little girls squeeling after the Jonas brothers, rather than voting for politicians that protect their and my own interests) that will limit my tobacco options. Here in Texas, I pay a state tax making it too expensive to buy in shops; I by pass this by ordering from New York and other states. Similarly, I believe New York folk order from Texas to by pass their state tax.

I am very pleased with my cellar selection. In fact, I saw some tins up for trades that I would love to have; however, I do not have any that I am willing to give up to get them.

If I ever get to retire, I imagine I would be okay other than ordering new blends (like we all like to try) as they develop.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:27 am

Holy Cow, Hank!
You don't think you'll make it past sixty?!? Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:42 pm

Hermit wrote:
Holy Cow, Hank!
You don't think you'll make it past sixty?!? Shocked


you know, bud, The other forum used to like to point out how fat I am. They do have a point man. I exercise alot, but I'm not the healthiest fella around.

60 would be a blessing. The way things are going in the nation, not sure I would want to be around even that long. I feel like a dinasaur at times; my kind have long been gone.

Actually because of my philosophy, I'll probably live to 100. It's those that WANT to live forever that die at 50. Also, I took out an extensive cancer and heart attack insurance policy bout 3 years ago, which means I'll never get cancer or have a HA.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:07 pm

Texas Outlaw wrote:
Actually because of my philosophy, I'll probably live to 100. It's those that WANT to live forever that die at 50. Also, I took out an extensive cancer and heart attack insurance policy bout 3 years ago, which means I'll never get cancer or have a HA.

Never rains when you have an umbrella! You'll bury those joyless vegans with a pipe in your mouth.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Cellaring Philosophy   Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:53 am

Doc Manhattan wrote:
Texas Outlaw wrote:
Actually because of my philosophy, I'll probably live to 100. It's those that WANT to live forever that die at 50. Also, I took out an extensive cancer and heart attack insurance policy bout 3 years ago, which means I'll never get cancer or have a HA.

Never rains when you have an umbrella! You'll bury those joyless vegans with a pipe in your mouth.


Yeah, I'm probably the healthiest fat guy in south Texas.

Back on topic:

I did learn something from cellaring and that's how tobaccos change and age over time. For the most part, I think people overdo the whole aging thing, but some tobaccos certainly do benefit from a few years in the callar. 5100 and 2000 come to mind.

Some of the best smoking tobacco I had was some 2000 from the year 2000. I also have some Christmas Cheer 2001 that I can't figure out if it's good becuase it's good or because it's well-aged.

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