non-flake "straight" virginias

jrtaster · Number of posts: 9 Registration date: 2009-10-23

well, here goes. for lots of reasons (arthritic fingers, general codginess, whatever) i've backed off flake virginias.

i'm looking for straight (no perique, burley or whatever) viriginias in broken flake, shag cut, or other non-flake presentation

i like old gowrie, for instance. lots of good sweet virginia taste

can any of you suggest others i could try?

thanks, john

shadrack · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:45 pm

McCranie's Red Ribbon is very good. Straight red virginia. mmmmMmmmmm
http://www.mccranies.com/tobacco_tin.html

gandalfpc · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:50 pm

Rattray's Hal O' The Wynd
GL Pease - Union Square

several other likely candidates out there, but alas I have not tried them yet - I'm sure some brothers will have McClelland,Mac Baren, and Gawith on their lists...

Warwick · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:44 pm

Marlin Flake would seem to be a natural next step from OG. MF strikes me as a kind of 'big brother' of OG.

As for shag, I very much enjoy Gawith Hoggarth Kendal Dark Thick Cut (www.marscigars.com). It's much stronger than OG, but very easy to load and sip without burning too fast.

By the way, your Old Gowrie is not all-Virginia. It includes Kentucky and Perique as well. From the blender's website:
http://www.kohlhase-tobacco.com/site/index.php?id=158

Quote:

RATTRAY‘S - BRITISH LINE
OLD GOWRIE
Erlesener, dunkler Virginia, Kentucky und ein Hauch Perique reifen in der Presse bis zu 3 Monaten, werden dann geschnitten und von Hand zerrieben.

....which Google translates as:

Quote:

Exquisite, dark Virginia, Kentucky, and a touch Perique intervene in the press up to 3 months, then cut and ground by hand.

EDIT: Interestingly, this is their description (translated) of Marlin Flake:

Quote:

This dark flake is composed of Dark Virginia, Cavendish and a hint of jet-black Perique.

I never would have thought of MF as a cavendish!!

SailorJack · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:34 am

Definitely 'Old Red' one of Scotty's blends from pipesandcigars.com. Soft, Sweet and very reasonably priced.

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EJinVA · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:36 am

Have you tried Sam Gawith Medium Va Flake? It comes as a broken flake. Not the Nic hit like FVF but a good mild sweet smoke. I think the Golden Glow in the tin is the same thing.

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Tennessee Dave · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:38 am

C&D's Opening Night is a beautiful Virginia

Ol'Dawg · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:11 am

A few more for your consideration not already mentioned--

C&D's #450 Ridin' the Raid; #457 Yorktown; Organic Pipe Dreams

Rattray's Brown Clunee

F&T's Black Jack

Wessex Brigade Classic Virginia

Jim

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EJinVA · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:37 am

Another of my favs is C&D Manhattan Afternoon.

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Texas Outlaw · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:21 am

oh hell, I was gonna recomomend Orlik, but it's a flake.

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Smokey Joe · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:40 pm

Try McClelland 5100. It's a bulk red cake that tastes pretty good and ages very well at six months. The flavor profile is similar to Old Gowrie with mild to medium strength and sweetness.

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tin man · Foiled Again Number of posts: 196 Registration date: 2007-12-10

Warwick wrote:

By the way, your Old Gowrie is not all-Virginia. It includes Kentucky and Perique as well. From the blender's website:
http://www.kohlhase-tobacco.com/site/index.php?id=158

Quote:

RATTRAY‘S - BRITISH LINE
OLD GOWRIE
Erlesener, dunkler Virginia, Kentucky und ein Hauch Perique reifen in der Presse bis zu 3 Monaten, werden dann geschnitten und von Hand zerrieben.

....which Google translates as:

Quote:

Exquisite, dark Virginia, Kentucky, and a touch Perique intervene in the press up to 3 months, then cut and ground by hand.

EDIT: Interestingly, this is their description (translated) of Marlin Flake:

Quote:

This dark flake is composed of Dark Virginia, Cavendish and a hint of jet-black Perique.

I never would have thought of MF as a cavendish!!

How 'bout that. And Brown Clunee is :
Dunkler, zerriebener Flake aus Virginia, Kentucky und Perique.

I learned something useful today. Thanks Warwick!

jrtaster · Number of posts: 9 Registration date: 2009-10-23

thanks to everyone for generously sharing your experiences. and i too was surprised tol learn a couple of straight virginias have other components (tho i did suspect old gowrie had something else in the blend...perique being my first uneducated guess)!

i have a lot to think about

special thanks to ol' dawg for his input...i'm sure your thoughts were elsewhere.

john

Muddler · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:39 am

You've got to try GLP Laurel Heights, one of the most complex Va blends I know.

Puff Daddy · Subject: Re: non-flake "straight" virginias Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:27 pm

Smokey Joe wrote:

Try McClelland 5100. It's a bulk red cake that tastes pretty good and ages very well at six months. The flavor profile is similar to Old Gowrie with mild to medium strength and sweetness.

Try mixing a half pound 5100 with 3 or 4 ounces of dark stoved Virginia like 5104 or Rattrays Dark Fragrant. Makes for a really great smoke!

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