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luckydogguy



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PostSubject: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:36 pm

As a newbie, I don't really know which tabacco blends to start trying. I don't feel like trying something that is cheap and I don't like, maily because I'm afraid it would turn me off to smoking pipes before I ever gave it a fair chance. That being said, can you guys please give my some suggestions of good Virginians, English and Aromatic?

Thanks,
Lucky confused

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:46 pm

Smoke 'em all! One at a time. Then start over, just to be sure.

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:00 pm

Not knowing your taste its hard to say. Here's some of my favorites.
English: GLP Odyssey Esoterica Penzance, Ashton Artisans Blend,C&D Yale Mixture.

Va: GLP Laurel Hgts. McCllelands 5100 or Christmas Cheer. Astleys 109,

Not Va, Not English: GLP Cairo, McClellands Arcadia

The only Aromatic I can smoke is Petersons Gold Blend. But I really haven't tried many 'premium' aros.
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PostSubject: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:06 pm

Since you're asking, I would recommend that you pass on the aromatic stuff. They have a generic tendency to smoke very hot and very wet. Not to mention that the casings in them tend to be very, very difficult to get rid of once they're in your pipes. If you can't stand not smoking candy, get yourself some of those little cigarillos.

I'm assuming you've read GLP's advice @ http://www.glpease.com/FAQ.html

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:00 pm

Yak,

A lot of information in that link. Thank you! I will try to incorporate some of the techniques.

Man, there's a lot to this "pipe smokin' thing," isn't there?


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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:01 pm

luckydogguy wrote:

Man, there's a lot to this "pipe smokin' thing," isn't there?


There is. Many approach it quite simply, and derive a great deal of pleasure from their pipes and tobaccos. Others delve into it with enthusiasm, passion and an insatiable thirst for getting the most out of the experience that they can, and derive a great deal of pleasure from their pipes and tobaccos. Then, there are those in between, who derive a great deal of pleasure from their pipes and tobaccos.

There's one thing we all have in common. Wink

I'll invite you to look at my page, read through the Briar & Leaf Chronicles, in addition to the FAQ already mentioned. Hang out here, ask questions, post your thoughts, and enjoy. You'll find some inside jokes, but they'll soon become familiar, and we don't haze the newcomers too much. Welcome to the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Even after 28 years of pipe smoking, I still learn new things about our pastime, and am as enthusiastic as ever, if not more so, about the hobby. Welcome to it, and may you derive a great deal of pleasure from your pipes and tobaccos - for a lifetime!

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:25 pm

luckydogguy wrote:
As a newbie, I don't really know which tabacco blends to start trying. I don't feel like trying something that is cheap and I don't like, maily because I'm afraid it would turn me off to smoking pipes before I ever gave it a fair chance. That being said, can you guys please give my some suggestions of good Virginians, English and Aromatic?


It's a big world out there, and during the early years, your tastes will change, your palate will adapt to new flavours, your smoking technique will improve. What you like today may be something you won't like in a month, or a year, or ten. Forgive me if I foray into some other "stuff," rather than answer your question directly. This is "stuff" I wish someone had told ME when I started out...

The early bowls are often a little disappointing to someone new to the pipe. Until we find a tobacco with enough flavour to penetrate the novice's haze, then learn a bit about tending to the pipe, then give our minds time to begin the process of categorizing and characterizing all the new tastes that we experience, we usually don't really grok the whole cloth.

Most tobacconists start the newcomer off with a "mild" blend. This is wrong-minded. A more stout blend will give the palate something to chew on during the early phases of the learning process. "Mild" blends often produce harsher smoke, and this is exacerbated by the tendency to pack too tightly, and to puff furiously to keep the pipe lit.

This leads to my second piece of advice. Don't be afraid to re-light the pipe - 50 times, if necessary. The WORST thing you can do is try to stoke the fire by puffing like a locomotive. Smoking to the bottom of the bowl on a single light is something we all enjoy, when it happens, but there's no shame in using as many matches as needed to get the job done. Save the parlour tricks for slow smoking contests when you're bored with the other stuff. Wink

Then, there's the subject of filling/packing the pipe. This just takes time. You develop a feel for it, and learn different methods for different types of pipes, different tobaccos. Finally, at some point, you do it unconsciously, almost intuitively. But, in the early days, learn not to pack too tightly, or you'll end up with a soggy, gooey mass that is impossible to smoke to the bottom.

Tamping - the weight of the tamper is sufficient. Don't press. The idea is to settle the ash, not compress it. Of course, if your tamper is made out of Roentgenium, you'll have to hold it back a little...

For tobacco recommendations, I'll leave that to the others. I'm a little biased...

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:33 am

Zero,

Thanks a bunch for the invite to the link. I will be taking a lot of notes! What a Face



Any other suggestions?



Thanks,
Lucky

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:35 am

luckydogguy wrote:


Any other suggestions?



Just keep trying stuff that sounds good to you. I know that's not much advice, but it's about the best I can give. What tastes good to one piper may not to the next so it's hard to say "Sure, these are THE 'baccys you should start with, hands down". When I first started, I had so many open tobacco laying around I didn't think I'd be able to smoke it all. Eventually I zeroed in on those types that really do something for me and use them as a basic reference point when going exploring. But that's really what's good fun about this hobby, you constantly have reason to try "just one more" tin of tobacco. That's as near a win-win situation as I'm aware of.
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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:37 pm

When I get asked this question by a novice smoker, my recommendation is usually to get a sampler pack from Cornell&Diehl. They have them available with both 5 and 8 blend assortments. You will get two oz. of each blend (except for tinned and Pease blends, in those cases you get one). It takes that much tobacco to really get a "feel" for a blend. The best way to do this is to call Craig Tarler at 1-800-433-0080 and talk with him. Explain your situation and what you are looking for in a tobacco and he will be able to guide you. He has done this for many new smokers over the years.

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:41 pm

Smokey made a great suggestion and mentioned sticking to it... that's what really got me excited about pipe smoking. I was looking for something a little more than the aromatics I was smoking. I bought at tin of S&G Full Virginia Flake. The first few smokes were less than satisfying but I kept with it to finish the tin. All of a sudden I was experiencing these marvelous flavors and a real sweetness that lasted through out the bowl unlike the cheap stuff I was smoking. My next tin was Laurel Flake and that was it... I was hooked.

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:52 pm

Smokey,

thank you . That is something I will definately try when I put an order in. Sounds like the right thing to do. That's basically how I got started with cigars also.

Thanks guys.


Right now I'm enjoying some "haunted Bookshop" courtesy of Davey. Agreat gentleman! Thank you, Davey! cyclops

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:25 am

luckydogguy wrote:
As a newbie, I don't really know which tabacco blends to start trying. That being said, can you guys please give my some suggestions of good Virginians, English and Aromatic?

Thanks,
Lucky confused


Lucky,

Just cut to the chase and visit this website http://www.wvsmokeshop.com/ and order a tub of Walnut. You will not be disappointed taste wise or economically. Walnut is a very satisfying light to medium English blend that has been around since 1856. Don't let CP's comments fool you!

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:33 am

I'd say for a good English blend, you can't go wrong with GLP's Westminster. It's currently my favorite, and it seems to me to be just about right for someone who has never tried an English baccky.

You might also try Squadron Leader.

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PostSubject: Re: What Blends should I start with? HELP!   Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:00 pm

Lucky, in my opinion the best tobacco to start trying is FREE tobacco. Accept anything that is offered and give it a try. You might like it at once, or you might like it enough to try something in its family. Or, you may dislike it so much you avoid anything close to it.

There is no better replacement for experience than....errr....experience. Ya just gotta start smoking.

Keep your eyes peeled for a spring boxpass, too. That is a great way to sample new tobaccos. Also, do you have a B&M nearby?

Feel free to PM me with something you might like to try. If I've got it I will send you out at least a couple bowlfuls (bowlsful?)...enough for a couple smokes. Heck, PM me anyway and I'll send you whatever I've got. (Which ain't a lot compared to some of these collectors but that is how I got started and I'm more than glad to pass it on.)

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